ScottP

I don't know butt rot from any other rot. Sounded like slang for a "rottenneedstobecutdown" tree to me. I guess your fragile ego wouldn't let you see that there was more than one possibility. As I said in my post, it was a guess. You really ought to see someone about those sociopathic tendencies. It's been fun. Bye now.

I think you need to focus that teen angst in a more positive direction.

You tell me. I make a guess as to why the tree had to come down and K-Y Guy jumps down my throat like I dissed him or something. Then again, perhaps you can clue me in to the extent of these pissing matches you are refering to. It seems to me that they aren't anything out of the ordinary around here. Either way, I'm not part of the in crowd maybe? My ego isn't inflated enough? As for the 3rd and 4th question, fine thank you. Things are going well.

Dude, I think you need a new spring or something.

Downclimb to the first rap off the Tooth in winter. There's a guy standing there in lightweight polypro, shorts and approach shoes just standing there shivering uncontrollably with a rope hanging off the ledge. We ask where his partner is. He gestures down the face. We ask if he'd like to rap with us. He agrees. I thread a rope through the slings and hand him the ends to tie while I flake one rope and my partner flakes the other. I turn back to see him just standing there shivering. I ask and he responds that he hasn't done that before. I tie and we rap. Half way down his partner appears from the sunny side of the face, equally hypothermic. We assist them down to the pass. As we are leaving, I hear the dude we saw first say something to the effect of, "You're the experienced one, you should have led that pitch."

Kitten, that's downright disappointing. Here, try again... "Talk about weak... "

Talk about weak...

cramping, (ego)bloating...?

Back at ya Alpine Kitty.

My guess is it was due to all that ivy twining about the trunk. People think it looks so cool, but it does a bad number on trees. (snip) Maybe you should talk about things that you know.... oh yeah sorry this is spray. See the first three words of my post... And I know that ivy infestation killed two elms in my backyard.

One rainy winter day Rob and I went out to Index. At the parking lot Rob sez, "What's that hanging from the wall?" We thought it was a haul bag until we got close enough to see what it really was. I also remember the big greasy streak lasted a long time and pig ears were later bolted to a boulder in the parking lot.

My guess is it was due to all that ivy twining about the trunk. People think it looks so cool, but it does a bad number on trees.

Inadvertently linking the last two pitches of Centerfold at Index (the anchor at the top of the third pitch had no hangars at the time.) I ran out of gear after the crux on the 4th pitch and had to finagle some interesting pro-stacked nuts and such-to finish.

Don't be throwing spin on this. I am not taking the high ground here and these two threads certainly aren't about me. You got a bunch of grief from others in this thread for speaking your mind. You then asked the question "why not?", and I tried to diplomatically say that the method used may have been a little heavy-handed and perhaps a more subtle approach could get the same message across without ruffling feathers. You took the high ground and turned this into a soap box rather than just giving her back her anchor and mentioning your concerns directly to her in private.

"Your honor, defense motions for dismissal on the grounds that the prosecution has failed to prove to a legal degree of certainty that the measuring device used was accurate and functioning properly at the time of the arrest."

I'm assuming she got on a C2+ because she felt ready for it because of previous experiences. She took the pins because a prevailing authority (the guidebook) said they might be needed. "I don't know...maybe these are just the standards I hold myself to and I'm trying to impose them on others...maybe so, but so what...why not?" Perhaps reordered thinking i.e. education via advice versus imposing of ethics/morals/standards on others is in order. There's nothing wrong with providing beta/help/advice to those with less experience when the purpose is to help them be a better all around climber. Methinks some reading this thread found "I agree, somebody either just doesn't give a shit about clean climbing, or just ignorant to the area and route their on." to be a little heavy-handed in light of you knowing who it was before you posted. Just my pair of coppers.

The problem I have with this argument is how will you know you're able until you have tested your abilities under the conditions that you need to test them to know that you are now able to do what you're supposed to stay the fuck off of until you're able? "Stay the fuck off the freeway until you are able to drive on the freeway." ehmmic jumped on a route that would test her abilities, got spanked and used tools to see her through that a worthy guidebook advised as applicable ("We only brought them along because of the comment in the guidebook.") My advice to her is to continue pushing her personal limits so she can therefore extend them, and consider Lambone's suggestion of downaiding out of tight spots to a)avoid the loss of gear and b)add that skill to her bag of tricks because it's a useful one. PS "At least Lambone made it to the top of his route!!" = "neener, neener" by proxy

Dude...I could smell shit just viewing that site. Kinda goes along with this one.

One time during my teens when I was taking a toke off a bamboo bong, a seed clogged the thimble we used as a bowl. As I was sucking extra hard to try to pull the seed through the hole, one of my friend reaches over and pulls the thimble out of the stem. The water supercharged into my mouth and lungs and out my nose. I don't know who looked worse, me wretching or my friends roilling on the floor from laughing so hard.

It's a common practice in the Needles of South Dakota where the summits of the pinnacles have no anchors.

priapsim..."heads up"...

The dirt on poo

Does anybody know of any slot canyons in Washington? I have a friend who's into canyoneering and he is looking for good descents closer than Utah/Arizona. He has heard of some in MRNP, but has no details. Thanks