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There once was a man named Ray Who beat off in a fistfull of clay But the heat of his prick Turned the clay into brick And ripped half his four inches away.

When asked what he thought of western civilization, Mahatma Gandhi responded, "I think it would be a good idea."

Is there a driving range nearby?

It is if it's got his prehensile tail.

"What a stupid thread."

Dude, you forgot the

It's Pat!

I'm sorry: The LAST thing SCW needs is a rap route. If you can't get up, or off a low angle, 600 foot crag in a day, you probably shouldn't be up there. As for the erosion perpetuation argument, almost 40 years of walk-off descents has made how much of an impact?

On lead, by hand. With that said, learn as much as you can. and then learn some more.

It does feel good to clear some of the cobwebs.

Good luck Dog.

Common understanding: Ratings are largely subjective i.e. existing only in the someone's mind i.e. opinion The more people supplying ratings (major increase in climbing population in the last decade), the more variation in opinion. i.e. the wider the range of ratings for a comparative type of climbing. Finis: Yosemite Ratings? Go to Tahquitz, where the YDS got its start, and climb those routes as a baseline. Then go to the Valley to get the a, b, c, d subset. Anything else is conjecture. Best comment yet.

Yeah, there's that famous picture of a guy about to get his brains blown away in Life Magazine. The officer was South Vietnamese and the prisoner was a traitor. But it kind of goes to show you, "what goes around comes around". The pic

It's now a wine tasting room.

12 to 24 hours is how long it takes for a tick to start feeding after it takes hold. Once it starts to feed, the bacteria can be transferred.

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More difficult to spell than "ankle"...

Why you used it in such a context as you did is beyond me and the cause for the "Um...never mind." ...it wasn't important enough for further ponderance. next time try the thesaurus Entry: graceless Function: adjective Definition: clumsy Synonyms: awkward, barbarian, barbaric, barbarous, boorish, clunky, coarse, corrupt, crude, Dru, forced, gauche, gawky, ill-mannered, improper, indecorous, inelegant, inept, infelicitous, klutzy, loutish, outlandish, rough, rude, shameless, tasteless, uncouth, unfortunate, ungainly, unhappy, unmannered, unmannerly, unsophisticated, vulgar, hey, it's been fun. Gottago now. Bubye

No they didn't. Anyway, why is taking a "your mama" literally considered gauche? Is it because you implied having sex with, and getting lice from, my dead mom?

Third, fourth, and fifth. : Left handed people have been considered lesser beings because that is what certain cultures use to wipe their asses with. So if you're labeled as gauche, it's meaning is double-you're left handed and somewhat disgusting for using that hand; especially for eating. Why you used it in such a context as you did is beyond me and the cause for the "Um...never mind." ...it wasn't important enough for further ponderance.

What does being left-handed have to do with your mama-isms? Um...never mind.

Those aren't ticks Dru. thanks for sharing scottpee i must have caught it from your mom Yes folks, we have a necrophiliac! Either that or you've been infested for some time and enjoy octogenarian sex. BTW, that is more of a Traskian level comeback. I expected more from the exalted member of the 10k club.

Those aren't ticks Dru.

Now there's a case of the pot calling the kettle black... On another more on-topic note, I've fallen on a few cam placements without them ripping. That I can remember, these falls were on granite or basalt only. YMMV on limestone, sandstone, tuff, etc.