Stefan

I thought that was in October of 2001?

Good write up. Those boys will remember those hours for the rest of their lives, and have a good story to tell when they get back to school......"What did you do this summer?" Very happy the story was one where a positive ending happened.

I broke my talus last year. I have problems with my foot and I will have it probably for the rest of my life. Problems will get worse not better. Bottom line: Don't break your talus.

Even though I am taken, I totally agree. The same goes with a lot of single women. Single women are looking for good looking guys and HOPE they turn out to be nice guys to show mom and pop.....that's why a lot of women stay single.....as well as men....... DWAYNER: A long time ago, I went to a tavern in Tacoma several times that had the facade of a tea kettle. I really liked the place. They only served Rainier, Bud, and Miller when I went. Is that place still around?

I have also heard of people taking apart their stoves and putting it in various places in their checked baggage. The security is more interested in looking at the crampons. I have also heard of people taking their fuel bottles and filling them up with soda. The fuel bottles look exactly like the Sigg bottles that a lot of Europeans use for drinking out of.

The story has a hollywood ending! Heal thyself.

1) unhook the cables from your battery so they don't take the car 2) leave your car unlocked with absolutely nothing in it so they don't break a window In a past job, I had a coworker who told me he had a car while going to Columbia University in Harlem. The car was broken into almost once every three nights at the beginning of his stay. He got so fed up, he hired a homeless man and paid him $3 a night to stay in the car every night.

I think the worst fees in Washington State are in the Olympic National Park accessing it from the Olympic National Forest. 1) You need a trail park pass to park at the Olympic National Forest trailhead. 2) You need to pay for an entrance fee into the Olympic National Park. 3) You then need to pay for a nightly fee per person to the Olympic National Park.

Makes more sense carolyn since you knew the person was not coming back--you did not say that in your original post. I had to make some assumptions based on your original post. Hell I would have taken the rope too if I knew the person was not going to come back....I knew I would have returned it intentionally. But then again, I am splitting hairs and fucking bored.

I haven't done Stuart north ridge. I have done East Willmans. I don't know why I haven't come across booty either.....I don't have an answer. Maybe the peaks and routes I have chosen are just not popular with people.

So you've never taken a piece of booty in your life? Ever? Not even a sling? Or a booty cam? Either your lying or you don't get out much. I am not a cragger. I am 100% in the alpine. I never come across shit when I am out there. I would never take the shit either becuase then I know I would have to pack it out, and I try to minimize my weight as much as possible. I do come across slings--but I don't take them.

Not when you are bored.

I do have a problem with what Carolyn did. It's still not apples and oranges. I view it this way: carolyn took the rope without having the full intention to return it (she was on the fence about her decision). If she didn't intend to return it, then why would she ask if she should keep it? RBW I agree taking stuff to return to the rightfull owner is good and I agree with you on that. At least this story has a positive end. I do hope carolyn feels better for getting the rope to the rightful owner.

For my own personal sanity I'm just going to believe that you are trolling. Not trolling. Some people just aren't that intelligent. Sometimes people forget things. Sometimes people accidently leave things behind. Sometimes people don't know how to be "politically correct" on rocks. Maybe this guide was such a dufuss he did leave shit behind. I would never do that with a rope and most people here on this site wouldn't ever take somebody's rope. You would be a dufuss to take a rope becuase you don't know the history of that rope. But the truth is, you don't know the answer why the rope was taken and neither do I. I would never take somebody's shit. Ever. I just hope the rope gets back to the owner. What I really think happened is that the guy forgot the rope and was going to come back to get it. My example is not apples and oranges either. It has happened.

Maybe the person left the rope there becuase they were coming back the next day to use the rope in the general vicinity or on the same climb. Maybe the person who left the rope trusted other climbers that their stuff would not be taken from the location. I have left a tent at a camping site, knowing I would bivy that night up high. I would then return to my campsite the next day. Yes, I was not at my tent during the night of my bivy, but I sure would be pissed off if someone took my tent, because they thought "I forgot" about it.

It claims to speak for climbers in general. It does not, however, accurately define who I am nor what I may believe about mountaineering values. I'm not part of their "company" nor are a good many climbers I know. - Dwayner I agree. I am not a part of them either and they don't speak for me. It just seems they made this "declaration" for them maybe to set a direction? Maybe the declaration was intended for current and future member of the UIAA and somehow was lost in the translation that it was for all climbers? I don't know....I am just an internet lurker instead of actual participant in the UIAA.

It appears that this declaration is a kind of mission statement. Companies have mission statements who define who they are.

This sounds too "Californian" for me. Although it probably does add something to the economy for the Nepalese. Maybe they will add snowmobiling soon.

Don't forget. $30 is so they can pay rangers to patrol too. It's kind of like the trail park pass. You pay the fee so somebody can go around to trailheads and check to see if you paid.

Back then it didn't have to do with settlement, flags, or who was there. Back then it was whoever could map out the place, could claim it. A map was considered the legal document for the land claim between disputing entities. Since shipgoers were usually tied to their ships, they really could not map out the interior land.

Slothrop is right. I broke both ankles in October. Major problems. Still have one major problem. Here is what the physical therapist had me do. Everthing was in 10s. Meaning 10 repetitions at 10 seconds..... I spelled the alphabet with my toes. As I sat down I physically stretched my feet in the four major directions (front, back, side, side) with my hands. I used a stretchy tube for weight resistance in those four major directions. You can also use a towel. As I sat down watching TV I rolled a beer bottle under my foot back and forth.

REI in Federal Way is selling their stock of Koflach rental boots for $40 now. Quite a lot as of yesterday.

DWAYNER introduced me to this movie: PINK FLAMINGOS. P.S. Don't watch it with someone you are trying to impress.

STAR WARS It was big. Oh yeah, and, THE GOOD, THE BAD, AND THE UGLY.

Anybody seen or know the conditions for accessing Little Tahoma currently (7/30)?