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is mythbusters on before or after the sex files cool jon!

The point is to free climb the original line using the same gear. Hubers try it working the moves and headpointing. Leo Houlding tries it on sight and ground up. It's just a differing style. Are you suggesting that those who bolt the routes are gonna be adding their bolts on sight, free and on the lead? No? Then yadayadayada your dissing of headpointing is pointless.

trask why didn't you give her the lewrockwell.com link?

all the gas stations in Canada have little "no cell phone" icons on the pumps. and they had something from head office printed out about dangers of cell phones, on the bulletin board at the Squamish Shell last time I was standing there with legs crossed and squinting waiting for some slow dude to get out of the john!

the Petzl plastic one with built in webbing cutter!

The point is not to "create runout routes" but to "respect the original ascent style by avoiding the addition of new fixed gear which would detract from the original ascent". Runouts are a part of climbing. If you can't deal with them, maybe you should focus on the existing climbs which are well protected, or on establishing NEW well protected climbs, instead of adding protection to an existing climb to bring it within your comfort threshold? Just a thought, cause for some people head control during a difficult runout is an integral part of the climbing experience. As for Cobra Crack - everyone from Peter Croft thru Hamish, Greg, Jim Sandford, to the newest hotshots on da scene like Andrew Boyd and Jordan Wright, have tried to free it - no dice so far. severely overhanging to roof rattle fingers with no feet. Fun clean aid though! Hangs way out over the trail.

Is that some secret society, or something? its kinda like the KTK but even more esoteric and exclusive.

They musta heard there was gonna be free piss! Look at em run!

extensive TRing and preinspection is also common before bolting in order to find out where to place the bolts..... the headpoint is a respected and inspiring traditional tactic! altho not as good as an onsight, of course don't forget good ol COBRA CRACK at Squamish. could it be the PNW's first legit (not a bunch of lamo pin scars) trad 5.14?

Hmmmm B J Sooner? Inserta Shafteer? Len Lictepeen? Funny names those researchers have

who will free it without adding a bunch o' bolts? alex huber styleeeeee?

Stops da ringing so yos can keep da blingin'

it is so suck when you post with the wrong avatar. it just confuses everyone. giving each avatar its own color scheme is key!

castle rox icicle butt lower 8 mile peshastin snow crick see ya tonight

PIMP!

the AMGA believes in lawsuits and so on too. if you believe your partner is gonna sue you for whatever - get a different partner, or start charging him/her for climbing with you.

thats a lot of trees to kill!

we work harder when rewarded thats how we work the office is a nice place

I liked the "agentorange is a Bellingham clownpuncher" quote better

There's frsssssssshiez to 6500' in Chilliwack right now

Errors creep in everywhere. It is nice to acknowledge your sources when correcting - but more important to make the correction. For instance I looked in the red CAG III and notice the reference to Fred gives to Custer's travels through the Chilliwack River area is to Custer's original report and not Harry's issue of NW Discovery. It seems like if Fred visited the archives and referenced the original - it is proper to quote the original source. If all he read was Harry's research of the original source - maybe he should have ref'd Harry. Or at least mentioned him in the "Acknowledgments" section at the front. On the other hand - perhaps there is an element of rivalry or play at work. I once deliberately wrote up a route description incorrectly because I knew no one but Jordan Peters would notice and that it would annoy him

the actual Pi Pillar is up on the right hand skyline near the moon and it looks like the number.

Apparently the two climbers who put up "First Kiss" got married soon after Also its on Kiss of the Lepers buttress - "keep the tip"