Dru

east coast punks do it better

is this the kind of 'humor' some of you were talking about? trask is such a 'fun guy' .... OK.... I withdraw it again... j_b for presidential intern

at minx's suggestion I am withdrawing this idea in favour of MARYLOU for presidential intern.

looks like they's working the sitstart!

When rr666 logs on he does so twice and one is a choss dawg and one is a lurker?

minx for presidential intern

can I quote a PM here?

Do you mean the same way Katie Brown, when she took up trad climbing, said Red Rocks 5.8 (Dark Shadows) was "really hard and scary" ?? then again I think 5.13 sport is hard and the humiliation of dogging bolt to bolt in front of the posey Smith crowd is scary so maybe you are right, the reverse is also true!

could they trickle ice over the dam edges and make ice parks?

i have more posts than the top posters on rockclimbing.com and ukclimbing.com does that make me the world champion sprayer

But seriously I am surprised someone hasn't tried chucKpine's argument already with regard to National Parks, arguing bolts make the wilderness more accessible to Americans of different abilities, and that banning them is exclusionary - isn't that the argument that was used in favour of snowmobiles in Yellowstone?

you must have missed the part of his original post and be taking him seriously matt

why are urinal and stall the only choices. what about "shower" "sink" or "trask's mom"

tell him you are mike adamson

you must have missed all my trip reports this year while you werre out getting your t shirts made up

I heard the phrase "canuck" is on the racial epithet list a few places near Louisiana and Boston. Go Canucks!

Dru, I removed your post yesterday morning. I appreciate people trying to cover for me, but the truth is it just seemed like e-mail material that hadnt been responded to, so I moved it. I log on once a day in the morning and "clean up" the main board of threads that should be elsewhere or are temporal and longer of use. (I am pleased you havent noticed til now!) I stated as much in the original thread after I moved it, so that moderators could see why I did. You and others continue to view this as a huge conspiracy against you personally and against spray. I am sure now that you will believe that I did it out of my "personal vendetta" against you or some such, or as you say to "protect my secret winter project". The truth is, yes, the conversation that might have proceeded might have been interesting, but the same could be said about they myriad of threads that you have sprayed on and that have stagnated or degenerated because of it. So take your "poor me" attitude and politely shove it. Alex alex blow me, chestbeater

I used to know Mills Winram but he didn't tell me many secrets about Slesse.

Do you believe in the Area 51 conspiracy, too? No but I believe that after getting PMs with threats from certain people after mentioning 1) east face of Mox Pk and 2) SW face of Spectre Peak that there are a group of climbers in Washington who are into the whole black-book keep-it-a-secret don't-let-Colin-find-out-about-it type of BS.

Well here it is back! And the title was Question for PMS...now move itto the North Cascades or the Ice Climbing Conditions or the British Columbia forum or all 3 - you see why I posted originally in Climbers Board....

EXACTLY - like some moderator thinks it is their secret project. Maybe I should change my sig file to "FFWA of NE Butt Slesse Up 4 Grabs" or be out there now stashing gear and practicing dry tooling

Background to question: I was looking thru the Cascade Select the other night and saw the FWA of Slesse pic with either Jim or Kit in aiders. And I know they took 8 days. So I was wondering: How much aid was used?obviously 5.9 is like M5 so the possibility for a free ascent are good. But whether a free ascent would be no big deal (like they only aided a few moves) or a big deal (they aided nearly all of it?) I don't know though I'd guess the aid was used on a lot of it due to the 8 day time frame. So I figured I would ask - but rather than just shoot Jim a PM I figured I would make it a post because 1) other people might also be wondering the same thing; 2) other people might know the answer and reply quicker than Jim; 3) other people might not have considered the FFWA a project but would upon seeing the query. My own interest is kinda abstract because I struggle with single pitch M5 at the moment. But Colin was asking me about the HoD couloir at the rope up and that's what got me thinking about if it is even the most worthy winter project on the mountain. I don't doubt with modern raised standards vs. 1983 many are capable of knocking it off..... So anyways which moderator deleted it and why? I would think this question is something we want to see more of and less of the "eat balls asseyes" type of posts no?

check it out this was a question for Jim Nelson or anyone else about how much aid was used during the FWA of Slesse NE Butt I guess we can't ask people for beta anymore? Anyone? Is one of the moderators worried I'm asking about their secret project? W TF it's in my backyard

There are hundreds of Red Mountains, many White and Black mountains, lotsa Green and Brown mountains; quite a few Blue Mountains; how many Purple Mountains are there? Or Pink Mountains? Or even Polka Dot or Plaid Mountains? There are lots of Deer Mountains and Bear Mountains and Goat Mountains but only one Kangaroo Temple, one Snafflehound Spire and no Platypus Peaks. Quite a few Unicorns and Dragons but not any Heffalumps or Pushmipullyus.