Scott_J Posted October 10, 2002 Share Posted October 10, 2002 The silvers are in the Sky, but they're suffering lock jaw. On the 16th of October season opens for the dogs(chum salmon)on the Stilly. Loads of fun to play with. They cook up and smoke well if very little color to them. Anyone else been out there fishing or upland bird hunting? If so lets hear about it. And before I get all the shit from the anti killers...FUCK YOU. hahahahahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny_destiny Posted October 10, 2002 Share Posted October 10, 2002 Gee, great idea! Systematically murdering them and remorselessly stealing their land and then kicking them off of it wasn't enough. Clearly instead of removing superfluous dam(n)s to save salmon, we should punish some of our nation's remaining Native Americans for trying to eat. Â This is called Manifest Destiny. We, the settlers of the United States of American, were given this land thru God's providence. The end result was unfortunate but the "right has the might" given by God's word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobBob Posted October 10, 2002 Share Posted October 10, 2002 I say we solve the problems of the reservations...let's make 'em national parks. Eliminate entitlements of all kinds now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Flash_Amazing Posted October 10, 2002 Share Posted October 10, 2002 "This is called Manifest Destiny. We, the settlers of the United States of American, were given this land thru God's providence. The end result was unfortunate but the "right has the might" given by God's word." Â Taking the "no think" approach to religion and history, eh? Â [ 10-10-2002, 01:30 PM: Message edited by: Dr Flash Amazing ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexual_chocolate Posted October 10, 2002 Share Posted October 10, 2002 No, just the "tasteless troll" approach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrible_ted Posted October 10, 2002 Share Posted October 10, 2002 The solution is easier than all of this bullshit. Â Turn over the commercial salmon fisheries of Oregon, Washington and California to the Indians. They tend to sell the majority of "their" half of the fish, anyways. The remainder can then be tended to maintain the much more lucrative and rewarding sport salmon fishery. That way, the stores stay stocked, the Indians have real jobs, the sport guys don't have to compete with the gillnetters for allotments, and the people can get a taste of what a salmon-rich river is really like. Maybe enough to slow down the hammerlock on habitat degradation. Â Having grown up in a fishing town, with multiple generation of family members in the business, I can state with certainty that closing out the last few holdouts in the commercial salmon fishery would be doing them, and their children, a big favor. Given the value of those boats anymore, it wouldn't even cost the Feds much to close them out. Â It's nice that the ocean decided to feed the guys a little better over the last few years. The lower Columbia has been seeing some nice fish. Too bad we're about a year off from the next downturn... Â Lower Columbia estuary ducks are the best! They've been eating ocean critters and briny eelgrass, giving them a rich, oily sea-soaked flavor. Smoked duck and Scotch... that'll cure ya' of what ails ya'... Â -t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrible_ted Posted October 10, 2002 Share Posted October 10, 2002 Oh yeah, one other thing - I found you've got get those Silvers on the Sky and the Skagit within the first day that they push in off the bubble. They get real close-mouthed after a day or so, I never figured that out. Â They should be stacked up like cordwood below the hatchery on the Cascade about now. Good luck SS... I say get 'em with a spear. -t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryland_moore Posted October 10, 2002 Share Posted October 10, 2002 Spent last weekend up on Deschutes. Biked in about 9 miles from the mouth. Steelie fishing was slower than last year. Not sure if the fish moved up after the rain last week or not. We landed a few on my favorite wet fly off the swing. My buddy landed a nice 20lb. Chinook too. This weekend, my Dad and bro are flying in for opening day of pheasant. Will hunt pheasant and chuckar in Heppner, then we are heading to Tillamook to fish for Chinook off my buddy's boat out of Garibaldi on Monday. My roomate went down to Sawyer's Rapids on the Umpqua y'day morning and hooked into 5 Coho. One was a hatchery and two others he landed were wild. My other friend hooked into a nice Chinook that broke him off in the rocks. Fishing is prime! Duck season isn't too far off either! Waiting for my friend to fill his elk tag and we will be eating like Kings all winter long! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg_W Posted October 10, 2002 Share Posted October 10, 2002 quote: Originally posted by ryland moore: Waiting for my friend to fill his elk tag and we will be eating like Kings all winter long! Is he early season bow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryland_moore Posted October 10, 2002 Share Posted October 10, 2002 quote: Lower Columbia estuary ducks are the best! They've been eating ocean critters and briny eelgrass, giving them a rich, oily sea-soaked flavor. Smoked duck and Scotch... that'll cure ya' of what ails ya'... Yeah, but sometimes that means they are eating snails and other fishy stuff, that can make the meat taste a little off too. I've had really good ducks and bad ones come from marshy or brackish waters. My favorite are Montana Spring Creek ducks where they have been feeding on watercress in super clean water for a month before heading south!Love duck jerky too, although since moving out here, haven't shot enough ducks to justify it. Still learning areas, and not having access to private land can be difficult. Am trying to get more out on the Willamette this season. Maybe we should swap some game recipes? My great grandfather was a grand national trap shooter who used to hunt with Ty Cobb. They coleected a whole bunch of game recipes between there friends in Va., Ga, and their Maryland decoy carver friends back in the 1930s and early 40s. They also put some good recipes for seafood, shellfish, and crabs. My favorite is corncakes and kidney stew (use deer, or veal for substitue). Nothin' like southern cookin'! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryland_moore Posted October 10, 2002 Share Posted October 10, 2002 No, he is bow, but season doesn't open till later this month I think. I think his unit is somewhere over in the Steens? I will check and see what Unit he drew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg_W Posted October 10, 2002 Share Posted October 10, 2002 Cool, I drew cow-only in late November. They're easier to find when there is snow on the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryland_moore Posted October 10, 2002 Share Posted October 10, 2002 In Oregon or WA? I do not know if he drew a bull tag. His brother is an elk guide in Colorado and Wy, which is where he lives in the summers working for YNP. Are those Roosevelt Elk up your way or RM elk? I've never shot an elk. Only whitetail in the SE. My Dad was mainly a duck, goose, and dove hunter. I am also a rabid turkey hunter. Love deep fried wild turkey in peanut oil! Damn, I am hungry and just ate lunch! Â [ 10-10-2002, 02:50 PM: Message edited by: ryland moore ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg_W Posted October 10, 2002 Share Posted October 10, 2002 RM Elk in Oregon (south of John Day, forget the unit). It's a family thing (uncle has the unit wired), so I hunt down there. I'm hungry, too. I'll be feasting on elk summer sausage at the Rope-Up!!! Â We have Roosevelt Elk on the Peninsula, RM everywhere else. Â [ 10-10-2002, 02:58 PM: Message edited by: Greg W ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off_White Posted October 10, 2002 Share Posted October 10, 2002 quote: Originally posted by Chepe: quote:Originally posted by Dr Flash Amazing: quote:Originally posted by Greg W: Go down to the fish ladders on the Columbia and cut holes in the nets of the indians camped out there. Â Gee, great idea! Systematically murdering them and remorselessly stealing their land and then kicking them off of it wasn't enough. Clearly instead of removing superfluous dam(n)s to save salmon, we should punish some of our nation's remaining Native Americans for trying to eat. Â Nice troll, by the way, and it even worked! They make enough money from casinos and other tax free shit to buy from the grocery store like anyone else. Those are just a long lost arguments that only work on the uneducated anyway. How much time have you spent on the Rez, white boy? Doesn't matter what kind of degree you have, I'll wager that when it comes to Indian Country you're pretty ignorant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILuvAliens Posted October 10, 2002 Share Posted October 10, 2002 quote: Go down to the fish ladders on the Columbia and cut holes in the nets of the indians camped out there. There is plenty of over fishing going on. Check out the Skokomish on a weekend. Cars line both sides of the road bumper to bumper for a half mile. People are nearly elbow to elbow in the river. It is pretty rediculous. My friends go alot. They say including themselves, people are snagging most of the fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt.Caveman Posted October 11, 2002 Share Posted October 11, 2002 Kill more birds. Catch more fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg_W Posted October 11, 2002 Share Posted October 11, 2002 MMMMmmmmm...fresh smoked salmon!!! Seems to taste better when you catch it yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poseur Posted October 11, 2002 Share Posted October 11, 2002 Tommorrow I'll be off chasing golden trout (prolly just brookies and rainbows) for the weekend; then another week and I'll be chasing steelies on the Deschutes. If I see a salmon swim by I'll try and bag 'em with a rock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt.Caveman Posted October 11, 2002 Share Posted October 11, 2002 quote: Originally posted by Poseur: If I see a salmon swim by I'll try and bag 'em with a rock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sk Posted October 11, 2002 Share Posted October 11, 2002 MMMMMMMMMMMM SALMON, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Flash_Amazing Posted October 11, 2002 Share Posted October 11, 2002 Smoked salmon is one of the best foods on earth. Perhaps if we could just allow enough of them to live so there would be enough of them to catch and eat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg_W Posted October 11, 2002 Share Posted October 11, 2002 quote: Originally posted by Dr Flash Amazing: Smoked salmon is one of the best foods on earth. Perhaps if we could just allow enough of them to live so there would be enough of them to catch and eat. Go down to the fish ladders on the Columbia and cut holes in the nets of the indians camped out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Flash_Amazing Posted October 11, 2002 Share Posted October 11, 2002 quote: Originally posted by Greg W: Go down to the fish ladders on the Columbia and cut holes in the nets of the indians camped out there. Â Gee, great idea! Systematically murdering them and remorselessly stealing their land and then kicking them off of it wasn't enough. Clearly instead of removing superfluous dam(n)s to save salmon, we should punish some of our nation's remaining Native Americans for trying to eat. Â Nice troll, by the way, and it even worked! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg_W Posted October 11, 2002 Share Posted October 11, 2002 quote: Originally posted by Dr Flash Amazing: Nice troll, by the way, and it even worked! Figured it would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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