Poseur

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what are you, a goddamn policeman? STHU No, they're mean too. I think it's STFU. Maybe a picture will help you remember.

You lied to me.

I meant that big meanie trask, why is he so mean, especially to Jon?

Why do you have to be so mean? Besides, I thought I was a chronic gumby.

How come we never see pictures of Jon, he's my hero and I'd like to see a picture of him skiing.

Jon is my hero!

quote: I'm down with that. Just got my new rifle yesterday. Like to put a few of them and some people here in the crosshairs. Fuckin losers. Dam, that's pretty harsh. But, since population is the root cause of environmental degradation, maybe... What'd ya git?

quote: I think Rick's rant puts a name to some of my anxiety, and I'd agree that its a non-partisan issue. Even if you're a die-hard Bush supporter, those same tools pass to the next idiot to occupy that office, and you might not think of them as your friend. Its of equal concern to right wing gun owners, libertarian free marketeers, disenfranchised lefties, paranoid black helicopter conspiracy theorists, and though they might not be aware of it, that great doughy mass in the middle too. Yep, ditto dat.

It's ALL about money. Anything else is just an excuse for underachievment.

quote: "Or how about this (I agree with chuck BTW) - we go with the flat and no deductions, and EVEN apply it to corporations?" Because since corporations contain individuals, that results in double taxation, once when the money comes in the door and again when it is disbursed to those who own the corporation. Now double taxation of the same resources may be OK by some, but it's not to me, so I'll oppose it, and do oppose it because it already happens. Corporations are treated as individuals because they are composed of individuals, and you do not lose your right to free speech, free enterprise, or self ownership when you go to work or own a piece of a corporation. Sorry mtngoat, but I gotta call BS on the "double taxation" argument when it is used to suggest that each dollar that flows through the economy can only be taxed once - that is a preposturously impossible standard and that term is only used to incite anti-tax sentiment (not that there is anything wrong with that-just get a valid argument). My one example, and doesn't take much to think of many more, when I make a buck, it is taxed as income, and again when it used to purchase (sales tax) and again by the person who sold me, and on down the line. Money is taxed double, triple, and an infinite number of times as it passes from hand to another. The argument that corporations cannot be taxed like individuals because it would be double taxation is really weak. How about this though - require corporations to pay ALL taxes, and indivudals don't have to so we can avoid double taxation? Don't know where you got on the free speech issue, it's not mine. I do believe, as others have posted, that if corporations are going to be treated as individuals, they should get treated as one, and if it means throwing the collective of corporate indivuals in the joint for crimes an ordinary "non-corporate" indivudal would do time for, so be it. The corporate shield should not be allowed to protect individuals from responsibility for crimes. Sorry for missing another good Muir on Saturday thread, but after all, it snowed.

Or how about this (I agree with chuck BTW) - we go with the flat and no deductions, and EVEN apply it to corporations? Just like with real people, corporations would pay tax on every dollar that comes in the door regardless of what it cost them to make that dollar - no deductions for salaries, depreciation of equipment, business lunches, and all those other deductions. People don't get to deduct what their car, food, clothes that are necessary for them to earn a buck, but coporations do. I think this what has scared the flat taxers off in recent years because if you treated corporations like we treat people, well, they would probably be bankrupt before the ink on the bill changing the tax code was dry. Food for thought?

Just a side note, tele specific skis usually have a beefed binding mounting area designed to keep your binding from ripping out (tele bindings allow more torque on the binding). There's a pretty good AT rig for sale on the Couloir website. http://www.telemarkvision.tv/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi

trollin, trollin, trollin.... Muir on Saturday babeeee.............

Now if only we could get Martha Stewart to do the perp walk, and then videos of her as Butchy Brenda's cellmate.