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Need a great windshirt.... your recommendations?

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My brother has: http://www.montbell.us/products/disp.php?cat_id=61&p_id=2303179. Un-lined, but super light.

 

A similar thread on MountainProject (http://www.mountainproject.com/v/lightweight-compressible-wind-shirts/107131469) led me to the Camp Magic Jacket: http://www.camp-usa.com/products/apparel/magic-jacket-1668.asp. Used it last weekend and dig it. I did get it on super sale.

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for the uninsulated windshirts, I would think that if it fits, they are all the same. Is there enough difference between various models to justify not getting whatever is cheapest?

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Breathability ... That said expensive doesny always mean better or more breathable

 

If u are going to use it on rock, id just get something that fits, is decently breathable, has deceny dwr, is under 6oz and packs ib its own pocket ... And is CHEAP ... As rock tears through my windshirts pretty quickly

 

U can find them on sale all the time ...

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I got an old wild things windshirt. As long as you can stuff it into your helmet, it should be thin enough to be extremely breathable. DWR is a waste of time on a windshirt as it will wear off quickly, makes it less breathable and if you need DWR, then you need a rain jacket. Mine does not have a hood but that would be nice. Full zip is not needed.

I paid way to much for it but still worth much more than I paid as I take that thing on every climbing trip. Probably paid something like $.50/trip.

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Just make sure the hood works with your helmet. Must windshirts designed for runners or yuppywear won't work with a helmet. Other than that they are all about the same. I have one from Mammut that I like.

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I've got an old-model Arcteryx. Has lasted quite a few years, and is very resistant to tears (I always think I'll tear it, never have.)

 

Cheap (on sale), light, stuffs into it's own pocket for clipping to harness, blocks wind. Could use a hood. The new Squamish Hoody has a hood that works with a helmet, considering it when this one finally dies.

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G Spotter : I was considering the Patagonia, and FA, but can't find the link to the Squamish?

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do not put gear in your helmet, it seriously reduces the impact force

 

wouldn't a reduction of impact force be a good thing? I think you mean that gear in helmet reduces the amount of impact force a helmet can take before failing?

 

I usually stuff my windshirt in my helmet. That can't possibly affect the strength of the helmet. Or am I wrong?

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I think what he means is that it reduces the amount of impact force that the helmet can take. Regardless, I think it was said sarcastically.

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That can't possibly affect the strength of the helmet. Or am I wrong?

 

Yes, you are wrong. The "empty space" in a helmet is there to compress when the helmet is hit so that the velocity of the falling object is not transferred to the skull. Filling the empty space means greater head trauma to you.

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Mountain Equipment Co-op RD Windshell:

 

http://www.mec.ca/Products/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524442633282&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302699303

 

Light, high-quality, and even has a hood.

 

This thing is awesome. Got caught in a snowstorm last year and was blown away by how well it held up.

 

And it's got stretch in the fabric, which I don't think the ArcT or the Patagonia has.

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Mountain Equipment Co-op RD Windshell:

 

http://www.mec.ca/Products/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524442633282&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302699303

 

Light, high-quality, and even has a hood.

 

This thing is awesome. Got caught in a snowstorm last year and was blown away by how well it held up.

 

And it's got stretch in the fabric, which I don't think the ArcT or the Patagonia has.

 

The Arcteryx one is really stretchy. It's like the RD but fits better.

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That can't possibly affect the strength of the helmet. Or am I wrong?

 

Yes, you are wrong. The "empty space" in a helmet is there to compress when the helmet is hit so that the velocity of the falling object is not transferred to the skull. Filling the empty space means greater head trauma to you.

 

Only if you're sportin' one of those old school hardhat styles. Get a hipster styrofoam lite helmet and it doesn't matter. You won't be able to fit that can o beans in there anymore, though. Be sure to add lotsa sticker logos to it, though, to hold that rice paper outer shell together longer.

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