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Originally posted by trask:
So what's your point drippy? Take your vitamins bitch!

(What's my point? First trask, what's YOUR point, you ignorant little..... dust mite?? You pop up, spew a line or 2 of hateful, stupid or just plain annoying text, then later you pop up again to apologize for or edit your last dumb comment. I'm waiting to see the first remotely interesting or relevant utterance come from your infantile trap. Still waiting... nothing there huh? Right- I'm guessing you're an angry 14 year old girl with some serious issues... get over yourself, 'bitch'.)

Holly et al, I don't think anyone here's looking for "changes" to the site... the site's fine, really, but like many common resources on the web it's slightly, shall we say, abused. If I have a point here, it's the same weak old point lots of folks have made on this and a million other internet forums- that not only is there nothing wrong with spray, there's also no harm or shame in making an attempt to stay on topic once in a while, particularly in a specialized and regional group like this. Dru suggests people should post more interesting stories... I agree completely- I for one can't get enough beta, route conditions, and TR's. But I'd guess I'm not the only one here that's reluctant sometimes to post to what seems like an overly hostile and reactionary audience. With over 1400 registered users, there seem to be only 30 or so that post with any regularity. What's with all the lurkers- surely a few of them have something interesting to share? Maybe like me, a lot of them are wondering what's the point of saying anything at all if every post gets pecked to small pieces, then sprayed into a fine mist? I also have to say I'm a bit amazed & embarrassed by some of the angry and mean-spirited jive that gets slung around here, especially lately. I think what we've got here is a classic case of November cabin fever- folks are frustrated because the rock is wet and the ice isn't formed, and they're getting all tetchy, and snapping like dogs at imaginary flies. Don't worry peeps- the ice will form, the snow will fall, and soon enough we'll all be qeueing up at the base of Chair Peak to take turns dropping ice on each other...

So is there any harm in covering an entire site with spray? Probably not, but I'd submit this analogy... take Paris for example (trask- a little tip for you; it's in France). It's a great city- lots of cool things to see & do. But nearly everywhere you go in Paris you're accompanied by the ever-present stench of urine. Seriously- it's worse than the Nose route. It's because people there pee everywhere- they pee in the streets, storefronts, mailboxes, phone booths, etc. It's not for lack of restrooms, it just seems to be an arrogant & misguided expression of personal freedom- "I pee wherever I want, because I can, and to hell with anyone who doesn't like it". There are certainly more offensive smells than urine, but it strikes me as a bit sad that no one in our lifetime will ever know what Paris is like without the stink, or what a public forum is like without the spray cloud. Say whatever you want (and I'm sure you will- fire away... I won't be here to read it), but I maintain that excessive spray can and does detract from a site; it scares away sponsorship and advertising money and can keep a site from achieving its true potenti- Rrrrring!! Hold on- that's my phone.

"Hello?""Kyle, it's your life calling. Line one.""What? My Life? Ohhhh, that's right- I have one."

Sorry folks- I have to take this call. I'm gonna put you on hold for just a minute, but I'll be right back...

Background music: awful muzak rendition of'I'm walkin on sunshine, Oh oh' (come on- sing along; you know this tune)'I'm walkin on sunshine, Oh oh''I'm walkin on sunshine, Oh oh''And don't it feel good! Doo do, doo doo doo do do do...'

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confused.gif" border="0 who got flamed for posting a trip report? except for the infamous warm and fuzzies on DDD retro-chopping TR -the rare ocasions when someone does post a TR usually gets all sorts of complimentary praise etc. dont know why people dont do it more.think its cause it takes ~ 1 hr to write up a good TR and ~5 seconds to spray.

my spray doesnt smell like pee anyways. it smells like napalm! and paris is in texas isn't it???

i see paris, i see france, i see someone's ....

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kyle good points. i trully find reading about climbing kinda boring. receiving beta, i slike cheating. first ascenionsts didnt log aon and ask questions, i think it steals away from the adventure. so you wont find me just generally talking about my climbing. there is alot more to life then climbing.....a whole hell lot more. it is a fun game that allows me to test my self in certain areas. but in the end its just like this website its fun bbut dont mean shiznit. i am a doer not a watcher i dont watch tv or anything. so when i st here at work and work for man making the big bucks i need an outlet. i cant have my girl come down to the office, but i sure can pick on ray and drul and some of the other yo's. they like, i like we all like it.

i think the only people that have the actuially problem on people who think they need it their way. bro this ain't burger king. and as far as i know jon and timm@y aren't looking for sponsership. if there i got 5 on it.

peace dawg

holier than thouerik

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Alex apparently has a life, or does he? However, all of us that do not, need the comfort of spray. To always know it is there when we need to shoot off at the mouth and entertain ourselves when porn no longer can. Now unless alex wants to come over wearing that cute tutu AlpineK saw him skking in last weekend and keep my hands occupied so I can't spray....than I will spray on.

The ironic thing....I have never posted spray. Alex's lame ass complaint about it though ironically has only encouraged me to make this one my first. Hmmm...

Congratulations Alex. I am YOUR contribution to the spray you hate. [laf]

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Kyle--"I was working on a clever retort to your monotonous post, but you're such a pretentious, whinny little shit, I don't care enough to waste my time. Just a few short words. After reading some of your posts, I see why Tigers eat their young. When you reach puberty, you should give some strong thought to the possibility of getting your GED and laid. Both will help straiten your ass out. Aren't you just something--whew, I'll bet you just spend hours at the mirror admiring your bad self...right? Blow me, poser..." your friend, Trask

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Originally posted by Kyle:

(What's my point? First trask, what's YOUR point, you ignorant little..... dust mite?? You pop up, spew a line or 2 of hateful, stupid or just plain annoying text, then later you pop up again to apologize for or edit your last dumb comment. I'm waiting to see the first remotely interesting or relevant utterance come from your infantile trap. Still waiting... nothing there huh? Right- I'm guessing you're an angry 14 year old girl with some serious issues... get over yourself, 'bitch'.)

Holly et al, I don't think anyone here's looking for "changes" to the site... the site's fine, really, but like many common resources on the web it's slightly, shall we say, abused. If I have a point here, it's the same weak old point lots of folks have made on this and a million other internet forums- that not only is there nothing wrong with spray, there's also no harm or shame in making an attempt to stay on topic once in a while, particularly in a specialized and regional group like this. Dru suggests people should post more interesting stories... I agree completely- I for one can't get enough beta, route conditions, and TR's. But I'd guess I'm not the only one here that's reluctant sometimes to post to what seems like an overly hostile and reactionary audience. With over 1400 registered users, there seem to be only 30 or so that post with any regularity. What's with all the lurkers- surely a few of them have something interesting to share? Maybe like me, a lot of them are wondering what's the point of saying anything at all if every post gets pecked to small pieces, then sprayed into a fine mist? I also have to say I'm a bit amazed & embarrassed by some of the angry and mean-spirited jive that gets slung around here, especially lately. I think what we've got here is a classic case of November cabin fever- folks are frustrated because the rock is wet and the ice isn't formed, and they're getting all tetchy, and snapping like dogs at imaginary flies. Don't worry peeps- the ice will form, the snow will fall, and soon enough we'll all be qeueing up at the base of Chair Peak to take turns dropping ice on each other...

So is there any harm in covering an entire site with spray? Probably not, but I'd submit this analogy... take Paris for example (trask- a little tip for you; it's in France). It's a great city- lots of cool things to see & do. But nearly everywhere you go in Paris you're accompanied by the ever-present stench of urine. Seriously- it's worse than the Nose route. It's because people there pee everywhere- they pee in the streets, storefronts, mailboxes, phone booths, etc. It's not for lack of restrooms, it just seems to be an arrogant & misguided expression of personal freedom- "I pee wherever I want, because I can, and to hell with anyone who doesn't like it". There are certainly more offensive smells than urine, but it strikes me as a bit sad that no one in our lifetime will ever know what Paris is like without the stink, or what a public forum is like without the spray cloud. Say whatever you want (and I'm sure you will- fire away... I won't be here to read it), but I maintain that excessive spray can and does detract from a site; it scares away sponsorship and advertising money and can keep a site from achieving its true potenti- Rrrrring!! Hold on- that's my phone.

"Hello?""Kyle, it's your life calling. Line one.""What? My Life? Ohhhh, that's right- I have one."

Sorry folks- I have to take this call. I'm gonna put you on hold for just a minute, but I'll be right back...

Background music: awful muzak rendition of'I'm walkin on sunshine, Oh oh' (come on- sing along; you know this tune)'I'm walkin on sunshine, Oh oh''I'm walkin on sunshine, Oh oh''And don't it feel good! Doo do, doo doo doo do do do...'

[laf]

[ 12-01-2001: Message edited by: trask ]

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Seriously man, give it a break. It's not that bad. You got something you want to discuss about climbing that is "serious," it will get discussed. So what if there are some random spray posts in the response, and the spray section is a no worry man. Come on. [big Drink]

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quote:

Originally posted by erik:
kyle good points. i trully find reading about climbing kinda boring. receiving beta, i slike cheating. first ascenionsts didnt log aon and ask questions, i think it steals away from the adventure. so you wont find me just generally talking about my climbing. there is alot more to life then climbing.....a whole hell lot more. it is a fun game that allows me to test my self in certain areas. but in the end its just like this website its fun bbut dont mean shiznit. i am a doer not a watcher i dont watch tv or anything. so when i st here at work and work for man making the big bucks i need an outlet. i cant have my girl come down to the office, but i sure can pick on ray and drul and some of the other yo's. they like, i like we all like it.

i think the only people that have the actuially problem on people who think they need it their way. bro this ain't burger king. and as far as i know jon and timm@y aren't looking for sponsership. if there i got 5 on it.

peace dawg

holier than thouerik

Say what?

[ 12-01-2001: Message edited by: trask ]

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that whole thred braught a tear to my eye and joy to my heart, no wander I love it here so much cool.gif (snif)

 

sk:borntospray wink.gif

 

p.s. hey alex, congragulations on the personal growth bro smile.gif

 

 

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Hey, Alex, I didn't mean anything personal by it, seriously, I've loved talking sailing with you and you seem like a standup guy, and I do agree with you on the spray matter in some respects. I think there's a place for it on cc.com, and it's right here in good old Spray....but I long for more wit and less potty humor, and it really bugs me when there is spray in every thread.

 

I just had a few minutes to spare and grabbed an old thread at random (would have looked further, but, er, my life called me away) and found a couple of things interesting about this thread...so I pulled it up to the top.

 

The first is that it seems to me that the level of spray, though it does fluctuate, got to a point a few months where it was consistently ugly. It seems to be under control now, but only due to a lot of work by the mods. (Thx to all BTW)

 

The other is that when we are in between hot sun and warm rock, and freshiez and fat ice, as we are again this late fall, that we get a little restless. blush.gif

 

Not mindblowing observations, but observations nonetheless.

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