mattp Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 I'm working on a flier for the WCC's Index fund-raising effort and have found a lack of photo's that show what the Lower Town Wall at Index is all about. We have some good climbing shots (could always use more) and satellite images are easy to come by, but I'm looking for someting that conveys the feeling of the place in a "what would I see if I went there" kind of way. A Flickr photo posted by somebody with screen name brewbooks is the closest to that I have found (an aerial oblique shot showing the Lower Town Wall area with a little broader view showing its setting is also something I am presently looking for). Does anybody know who "brewbooks" is? What do you folks think about harvesting photo's from the web and recycling them for use in other applications -- such as a fund-raising effort or (for that matter) some other purpose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 Well it seems like an obvious answer, maybe i'm not getting your question? Only use photos with permission from the owner would seem to be the common sense rule of thumb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattp Posted June 18, 2009 Author Share Posted June 18, 2009 I have always sought permission. I wonder, though: where is the basis for it if someone really expects that kind of courtesy if they post something in a public forum on the Internet? I realize that books have been copyrighted for eons, but isn't the Internet a different beast? Don't we expect that anything we post here can be downloaded and conveyed elsewhere? Shouldn't we? (In the present instance, I won't use the photo unless I can contact the person who posted it. There is too much at stake to risk alienating somebody.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 Regardless of the legality, I've always just thought it to be in good taste to ask permission...especially if you're using it for something "official". Here is a funny story: http://www.extraordinarymommy.com/blog/are-you-kidding-me/stolen-picture/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off_White Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 Is John Scurlock available for a custom flyby? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt_m Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 Is John Scurlock available for a custom flyby? Even better, John S has "ins" with Alpinist. Maybe a dual purpose can be served. A nice article in Alpinist AND pictures will raise MUCHO awareness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rad Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 You'd have to buzz the treetops to get a good shot of the LTW. Too bad the Inn/restaurant in Index went under. I'm forgetting its name - ate there a bunch and stayed there once too. It was very picturesque with the UTW as a backdrop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 Ah, the Bush House. I ate lunch there, once. It's fun to watch it recede slowly into the forest... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crillz Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 Ah, the Bush House. I ate lunch there, once. It's fun to watch it recede slowly into the forest... That 2nd floor balcony looks primed for a big group of party animals! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-spotter Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 I have always sought permission. I wonder, though: where is the basis for it if someone really expects that kind of courtesy if they post something in a public forum on the Internet? I realize that books have been copyrighted for eons, but isn't the Internet a different beast? Don't we expect that anything we post here can be downloaded and conveyed elsewhere? Shouldn't we? (In the present instance, I won't use the photo unless I can contact the person who posted it. There is too much at stake to risk alienating somebody.) The Flickr copyright rules are spelled out pretty clearly on the site and in fact on each individual photo (users can choose whether to apply full copyright or Creative Commons to individual photos). Did you find the rules hard to understand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-spotter Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 In fact, if it's this photo, then he's got a http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/deed.en_CA Creative Commons 2.0 license on it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 Matt, I can always go up there and take some pictures too. Just let me know what you're looking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannible Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 Why not just go out there and take a picture? You can probably get a better one than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashclimber Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Lots of pilots around. Just pay for the gas money and they will fly you right over the wall. Bet you can get a hundred pictures on a nice digital SLR. Seriously, my co-worker is gonna take me out there in Fall when all teh leaves hit the ground. Taking a Digital SLR and HD production Video Camera. Speaking of Fund Raisers for Index, How about someone with PHOTOSHOP skills make a poster size photo of the lower town wall with Clint Cummins topos of the routes "superimpossed" over it? Kinda like the ones they sell of Yosemite. Cost to make in mass production about $5-10. Fund raiser cost $25.00. Bet it would raise a lot of money! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goatboy Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 What do you folks think about harvesting photo's from the web and recycling them for use in other applications -- such as a fund-raising effort or (for that matter) some other purpose? This sure is an odd post. Does our collective answer to this question affect the way you'll treat any particular photo? What do you want to hear, here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkMcJizzy Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 The Flickr copyright rules are spelled out pretty clearly on the site and in fact on each individual photo (users can choose whether to apply full copyright or Creative Commons to individual photos). Did you find the rules hard to understand? Backoff Dru, he's a lawyer. Sounds like a good one too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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