billcoe Posted August 30, 2008 Posted August 30, 2008 Well, the vps tend to get screwed. They usually (with a few exceptions) sit around and do very little once elected. So their main function and prime importance is to replace the President in the case that they die or are incapacitated. Now Obama, he's a strong young man. (Talking statistics here). If some jackass doesn't try and off him (I'm praying this never happens to any elected official), will live for many many years. Ask any actuary. True. Now McCain, the opposite is true. He's much closer to the legal limit where his lights will naturally turn off for ever. So as far as we, the voters are concerned, we can almost give Obama a pass on the VP pick, yet MUST take McCains very very seriously: as that person will much more likely become the president. When I glance at the picks, I know that Biden would be an excellent President. I can get into the why, however, it's very obvious he has the credentials and anyone who's paid attention knows this and has known it for years. Palin, on the other hand, does not. In fact, the only time I've heard of her was when she was charged with the fairly recent scandle of getting the relative tossed off the state police force. So to me, Obama has shown much better judgment in this arena than McCain. Perhaps I will learn about Palin and change my opinion. My question is this: is she ready to step in and become the president? Harry Truman was widely thought to be a small time operator and political hack, yet in many minds was a very good President. So I don't know. It does seem like poor judgment on McCains part to pick her. That was the best he could do? There is NO one more qualified than her Can anyone lay that down? Can anyone here explain why she was a good pick for the country. Quote
mkporwit Posted August 30, 2008 Posted August 30, 2008 The Palin I would prefer to have for President would be Michael, not Sarah. Quote
Fairweather Posted August 30, 2008 Posted August 30, 2008 4 of the forty-two men who have been president up until today have been assassinated in this "civilized" nation. Nearly ten percent. Four more have faced strong attempts. Quote
assmonkey Posted August 30, 2008 Posted August 30, 2008 Hey man, lay off Hot Lips. She's hot. Way hotter than Mitt Romney. McCain is one lucky dude! I'll bet she looks good in a blue dress. Hmmmmmmm.... - a s s m n k e y Quote
billcoe Posted August 30, 2008 Author Posted August 30, 2008 Scott: is that the b4 of this one? This would have been played up if Obamas pick had been different: Quote
dmuja Posted August 30, 2008 Posted August 30, 2008 The choice is clear now.. On one side you have a team of two distinguished, articulate, bright and intelligent people with the vision and the plans to take a nation into the future, improve the lives of the vast majority of its citizenry and restore its standing in the world. On the other side you have a very old man, and (well, not to be crass, but frankly speaking) a MILF FROM ALASKA! - with plans to, keep a nation stuck in politics as usual, make its rich richer, make its middle class and poor poorer, degrade the environment, kill more of its troops to protect corporate interests, dare the rest of the world to stand up to it all, and likely in the end, simply lie about it. I for one will NOT underestimate our nations collective decision making abilities by predicting that 'merikins will once again rise to the occasion and go for the old man and the milf. So therefore I shall abstain from such a prediction at this time. Put money on it though Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted August 30, 2008 Posted August 30, 2008 The choice is clear now.. On one side you have a team of two distinguished, articulate, bright and intelligent people with the vision and the plans to take a nation into the future, improve the lives of the vast majority of its citizenry and restore its standing in the world. On the other side you have a very old man, and (well, not to be crass, but frankly speaking) a MILF FROM ALASKA! - with plans to, keep a nation stuck in politics as usual, make its rich richer, make its middle class and poor poorer, degrade the environment, kill more of its troops to protect corporate interests, dare the rest of the world to stand up to it all, and likely in the end, simply lie about it. I for one will NOT underestimate our nations collective decision making abilities by predicting that 'merikins will once again rise to the occasion and go for the old man and the milf. So therefore I shall abstain from such a prediction at this time. Put money on it though Biden is an "old man" as well folks. Quote
mkporwit Posted August 30, 2008 Posted August 30, 2008 forty-two men who have been president Ummm, isn't that forty-three men? Quote
Fairweather Posted August 30, 2008 Posted August 30, 2008 forty-two men who have been president Ummm, isn't that forty-three men? No. The 22nd and 24th are the same man. Quote
mkporwit Posted August 30, 2008 Posted August 30, 2008 Oh yeah, you're right... Forgot about Grover Cleveland... Quote
Dechristo Posted August 30, 2008 Posted August 30, 2008 Scott: is that the b4 of this one? This would have been played up if Obamas pick had been different: It's inevitable. The question will be asked, "what are your expectations of serving under John McCain?" Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted August 30, 2008 Posted August 30, 2008 Scott: is that the b4 of this one? This would have been played up if Obamas pick had been different: It's inevitable. The question will be asked, "what are your expectations of serving under John McCain?" Actually the guy on the left reminds me of Biden. Just sayin. Quote
Fairweather Posted August 30, 2008 Posted August 30, 2008 I think that's John Edwards after voodoo lady sucked his life energy out through his penis. Quote
ivan Posted August 30, 2008 Posted August 30, 2008 4 of the forty-two men who have been president up until today have been assassinated in this "civilized" nation. Nearly ten percent. Four more have faced strong attempts. the same number have died in office of natural causes (4), and depending on how you want to look at it, many more probably died prematurely (within a few years) after leaving office, likely do to the stresses involved in the job (wilson and lbj surely qualify) Quote
Fairweather Posted August 30, 2008 Posted August 30, 2008 (edited) 4 of the forty-two men who have been president up until today have been assassinated in this "civilized" nation. Nearly ten percent. Four more have faced strong attempts. the same number have died in office of natural causes (4), and depending on how you want to look at it, many more probably died prematurely (within a few years) after leaving office, likely do to the stresses involved in the job (wilson and lbj surely qualify) Bill Clinton too. Man, that guy is aging fast. Hillary still looks pretty good for her age. I wonder what 4, or even eight years at the helm would do to her. I guess we'll never know. My (least) favorite "died in office" is Harrison. What kind of arrogant fuck gives a four-hour long inauguration speech in a downpour? Edited August 30, 2008 by Fairweather Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted August 30, 2008 Posted August 30, 2008 4 of the forty-two men who have been president up until today have been assassinated in this "civilized" nation. Nearly ten percent. Four more have faced strong attempts. the same number have died in office of natural causes (4), and depending on how you want to look at it, many more probably died prematurely (within a few years) after leaving office, likely do to the stresses involved in the job (wilson and lbj surely qualify) 10% is a 3 orders of magnitude higher murder rate than the national average (.01%), as are the attempts. It should come as no surprise that the most famous and powerful office should be present a target for a large body of the would be instantly famous. Quote
ivan Posted August 30, 2008 Posted August 30, 2008 What kind of arrogant fuck gives a four-hour long inauguration speech in a downpour? one who suffers (badly) from logorrhoea? Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted August 30, 2008 Posted August 30, 2008 4 of the forty-two men who have been president up until today have been assassinated in this "civilized" nation. Nearly ten percent. Four more have faced strong attempts. the same number have died in office of natural causes (4), and depending on how you want to look at it, many more probably died prematurely (within a few years) after leaving office, likely do to the stresses involved in the job (wilson and lbj surely qualify) Bill Clinton too. Man, that guy is aging fast. Hillary still looks pretty good for her age. I wonder what 4, or even eight years at the helm would do to her. I guess we'll never know. My (least) favorite "died in office" is Harrison. What kind of arrogant fuck gives a four-hour long inauguration speech in a downpour? Look at the "before" and "after" photo of just about any recent president and the profound effect of the office is obvious. They age way more than the 4 or 8 years in office. Carter, Clinton, and W all come to mind. Reagan looked pretty much the same but he was old to begin with and dyed his hair. Quote
Frikadeller Posted August 31, 2008 Posted August 31, 2008 Well, the vps tend to get screwed. They usually (with a few exceptions) sit around and do very little once elected. So their main function and prime importance is to replace the President in the case that they die or are incapacitated. Not true. You seem to make the office of VP seem smaller than it really is. As designated by the Constitution of the United States, the vice president also serves as the President of the Senate, and may break tie votes in that chamber. He or she may be assigned additional duties by the president but, as the Constitution assigns no executive powers to the vice president, in performing such duties he or she acts only as an agent of the president. So, it is really a full time job after all.. Quote
Frikadeller Posted August 31, 2008 Posted August 31, 2008 Miss Wasilla, AK 1984 Damn!! Kind of cute, until she had five kids, and decided that she was a Republican... All I see is "country dough face".... Quote
Fairweather Posted August 31, 2008 Posted August 31, 2008 All I see is "country dough face".... More love and kindness from liberals and open minded folks on the left. I guess it's to be expected from the party that tossed Hillary out on her ear. Quote
TREETOAD Posted August 31, 2008 Posted August 31, 2008 Well it is pretty obvious that Mr M and his crew are taking a desparate stab at trying to pick up a few votes from the disgruntled Hillary backers. Quote
olyclimber Posted August 31, 2008 Posted August 31, 2008 McCain is a smart guy! Going be getting some SUGAR this campaign! 1RN5xbWtNSU Quote
olyclimber Posted August 31, 2008 Posted August 31, 2008 libtard spin machine in full effect boyz: http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/8/30/121350/137/486/580223 Quote
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