ivan Posted April 14, 2008 Posted April 14, 2008 i'm on the "all send" list for a 90-something year old ww2 vet who's good for mostly sending out the most bizarre emails i usually get - thought this one had to be shared with the group - enjoy - all of the colored sections were like that in the email of course --------------------------------------------- Scroll down to read all to the end. Scary!!! What a Black Columnist has to say about Obama. Ken Blackwell - Columnist for the New York Sun. It's an amazing time to be alive in America. We're in a year of firsts in this presidential election: the first viable woman candidate; the first viable African-American candidate; and, a candidate who is the first front-running freedom fighter over 70. The next president of America will be a first.We won't truly be in an election of firsts, however, until we judge every candidate by where they stand. We won't arrive where we should be until we no longer talk about skin color or gender. Now that Barack Obama steps to the front of the Democratic field, we need to stop talking about his race, and start talking about his policies and his politics.The reality is this: Though the Democrats will not have a nominee until August, unless Hillary Clinton drops out, Mr. Obama is now the front runner, and its time America takes a closer and deeper look at him. Some pundits are calling him the next John F. Kennedy. He's not. He's the next George McGovern. And it's time people learned the facts.Because the truth is that Mr. Obama is the single most liberal senator in the entire U.S. Senate. He is more liberal than Ted Kennedy, Bernie Sanders, or Mrs. Clinton. Never in my life have I seen a presidential front runner whose rhetoric is so far removed from his record. Walter Mondale promised to raise our taxes and he lost. George McGovern promised military weakness and he lost. Michael Dukakis promised a liberal domestic agenda and he lost.Yet Mr. Obama is promising all those things, and he's not behind in the polls. Why? Because the press has dealt with him as if he were in a beauty pageant. Mr. Obama talks about getting past party, getting past red and blue, to lead the United States of America. But let's look at the more defined strokes of who he is underneath this superficial 'beauty.' Start with national security, since the president's most important duties are as commander-in-chief. Over the summer, Mr. Obama talked about invading Pakistan , a nation armed with nuclear weapons; meeting without preconditions with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who vows to destroy Israel and create another Holocaust; and Kim Jong II, who is murdering and starving his people, but emphasized that the nuclear option was off t he table against terrorists - something no president has ever taken off the table since we created nuclear weapons in the 1940s. Even Democrats who have worked in national security condemned all of those remarks. Mr. Obama is a foreign-policy novice who would put our national security at risk.Next, consider economic policy. For all its faults, our health care system is the strongest in the world. And free trade agreements, created by Bill Clinton as well as President Bush, have made more goods more affordable so that even people of modest means can live a life that no one imagined a generation ago. Yet Mr. Obama promises to raise taxes on 'the rich.' How to fix Social Security? Raise taxes. How to fix Medicar e? Raise taxes. Prescription drugs? Raise taxes. Free college? Raise taxes. Socialize medicine? Raise taxes. His solution to everything is to have government take it over. Big Brother on steroids, funded by your paycheck.Finally, look at the social issues. Mr. Obama had the audacity to open a stadium rally by saying, 'All praise and glory to God!' but says that Christian leaders speaking for life and marriage have 'hijacked' - hijacked - Christianity. He is pro-partial birth abortion, and promises to appoint Supreme Court justices who will rule any restriction on it unconstitutional. He espouses the abortion views of Margaret Sanger, one of the early advocates of racial cleansing. His spiritual leaders endorse homosexual marriage, and he is moving in that direction. In Illinois, he refused to vote against a statewide ban on all handguns in the state. These are radical left, Hollywood, and San Francisco values, not Middle America values.The real Mr. Obama is an easy target for the general election. Mrs. Clinton is a far tougher opponent. But Mr. Obama could win if people don't start looking behind his veneer and flowery speeches. His vision of 'bringing America together' means saying that those who disagree with his agenda for America are hijackers or warmongers. Uniting the country means adopting his liberal agenda and abandoning any conflicting beliefs.But right now everyone is talking about how eloquent of a speaker he is and - yes - they're talking about his race. Those should never be the factors on which we base our choice for president. Mr. Obama's radical agenda sets him far outside the American mainstream, to the left of Mrs. Clinton. It's time to talk about the real Barack Obama. In an election of firsts, let's first make sure we elect the person who is qualified to be our president in a nuclear age during a global civilizations war. Kind of scary, wouldn't you think? Remember--God is good, and is in time, on time, every time. According to The Book of Revelations the anti-Christ is: The anti-Christ will be a man, in his 40s, of MUSLIM descent, who will deceive the nations with persuasive language, and have a MASSIVE Christ-like appeal....the prophecy says that people will flock to him and he will promise false hope and world peace, and when he is in power, will destroy everything. Is it OBAMA?? I STRONGLY URGE each one of you to re post this as many times as you can! Each opportunity that you have to send it to a friend or media outlet...do it! If you think I am crazy.. I'm sorry but I refuse to take a chance on t he 'unknown' candidate. Think about this!!! Quote
Doug Posted April 14, 2008 Posted April 14, 2008 Well you know, I've never seen Barack Obama and the Anti-Christ in the same place at the same time...... Quote
JayB Posted April 14, 2008 Posted April 14, 2008 Tavis Smiley seems to think so. The response he's gotten for his critiques of Obama kind of reminds me of the political equivalent of what happened to Denzel Washington's character at the end of "Training Day." Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted April 14, 2008 Posted April 14, 2008 May the Lord keep you, Ivan, for posting this invaluable and timely warning to all of us. I'm getting confused though. Does the Anti-Christ come before or after The Rapture? I'm just trying to get things straight in my daytimer. Quote
ivan Posted April 14, 2008 Author Posted April 14, 2008 so my questions is, did anyone manage to finish any of the preceding paragraphs to the great big red flashing warning of anti-jesus death? its kinda hard not to just stampede to the clitoris on it... so, promised meself to lay low on the whole religion-thang this week, but good christ, its fucked up paranoid shit like this that makes me pathologically incapable of taking any person who believes in the big JC and the heavenly hitters seriously - i realize this paints all religious folks w/ the same crazy-brush, but it just seems that view points like this are the logical conclusion for believing in sacred texts and avenging umpires in the sky. Quote
billcoe Posted April 14, 2008 Posted April 14, 2008 In Illinois, he refused to vote against a statewide ban on all handguns in the state. These are radical left, Hollywood, and San Francisco values, not Middle America values. I think dude must have screwed this part (quoted) up. There is some truth in that rant there, I wonder how much. Check Obamas web site, and he will do all things for all people, as if there is no cost for all of this government largess. It's just classic, typical and traditional politician-speak. Quote
sexual_chocolate Posted April 14, 2008 Posted April 14, 2008 realize this paints all religious folks w/ the same crazy-brush, but it just seems that view points like this are the logical conclusion for believing in sacred texts and avenging umpires in the sky. but, what about the dolly lama? Quote
Doug Posted April 14, 2008 Posted April 14, 2008 If you use outlook you can download a revelations scheduler that is easliy imported. Then you can go about your life and let the prophecies take care of themselves! Quote
ivan Posted April 14, 2008 Author Posted April 14, 2008 but, what about the dolly lama? he's crazy too, but that nice-grandpa kinda crazy where you don't feel so alarmed when he has a steak-knife in his hand over a thanksgiving dinner Quote
JayB Posted April 14, 2008 Posted April 14, 2008 so my questions is, did anyone manage to finish any of the preceding paragraphs to the great big red flashing warning of anti-jesus death? its kinda hard not to just stampede to the clitoris on it... so, promised meself to lay low on the whole religion-thang this week, but good christ, its fucked up paranoid shit like this that makes me pathologically incapable of taking any person who believes in the big JC and the heavenly hitters seriously - i realize this paints all religious folks w/ the same crazy-brush, but it just seems that view points like this are the logical conclusion for believing in sacred texts and avenging umpires in the sky. Read "Letter to a Christian Nation," if you haven't already... Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted April 14, 2008 Posted April 14, 2008 Now a lama with one L is a priest, and a llama with 2 L's is a beast, but I'll bet your bottom pajama that if you search from here to Yokohama, you can't find a lllama, mama. Quote
archenemy Posted April 14, 2008 Posted April 14, 2008 I don't remember the antichrist being described as a middle aged muslim. Can someone point me to that statement? I'm a little rusty on my revelations, but I thought the whole gig was the trinity of evil mentioned in the 13th revelation--which had a dragon and other cool shit, but no muslim. Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted April 14, 2008 Posted April 14, 2008 Wasn't an aging hair band mentioned in there somewhere? Quote
Mal_Con Posted April 14, 2008 Posted April 14, 2008 Seeing as Revelations was written many hundreds of years before Mohamed or Muslims existed. Quote
archenemy Posted April 14, 2008 Posted April 14, 2008 And I think it was thousands, but the point is the same. Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted April 14, 2008 Posted April 14, 2008 And I think it was thousands, but the point is the same. The book of Revelations was written after Christ in around the 1st century; Mohammed lived in the 6th - 7th centuries. Quote
archenemy Posted April 14, 2008 Posted April 14, 2008 I was fucking around. It's only been "thousands" of years since the whole shebang anyway. Quote
Bug Posted April 14, 2008 Posted April 14, 2008 Nobody listens but I'll say it again. The Bible is an anthology of oral traditions. Oral traditions/mythologies are the storage area for a society's wisdom, knowledge, and worldview. Oral tradtions were steeped in allegory and were open to change as the times changed. When literacy was introduced, the Oral traditions were frozen in time and became obsolete. It would be like taking a picture of your self now and in 50 years saying, "That's what I look like." Fundamentalists took over the church in spite of Jesus' abhorance of codified religion (see the part where he throughs the pharisees out of the temple). Our generation and many preceding us are cursed with the presence of long standing fundamentalist traditions and social structures. But, as with all generations, we are tasked with "following our hearts" to discerne what is good and what is evil (or however you wat to express it). Revelations could easily be used to prove that space aliens invaded earth in the 1st century. Fear motivates. Those who wrote and cannonized Revelations were very afraid of losing power. Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted April 14, 2008 Posted April 14, 2008 Nobody listens but I'll say it again. The Bible is an anthology of oral traditions. Oral traditions/mythologies are the storage area for a society's wisdom, knowledge, and worldview. Oral tradtions were steeped in allegory and were open to change as the times changed. When literacy was introduced, the Oral traditions were frozen in time and became obsolete. It would be like taking a picture of your self now and in 50 years saying, "That's what I look like." Fundamentalists took over the church in spite of Jesus' abhorance of codified religion (see the part where he throughs the pharisees out of the temple). Our generation and many preceding us are cursed with the presence of long standing fundamentalist traditions and social structures. But, as with all generations, we are tasked with "following our hearts" to discerne what is good and what is evil (or however you wat to express it). Revelations could easily be used to prove that space aliens invaded earth in the 1st century. Fear motivates. Those who wrote and cannonized Revelations were very afraid of losing power. Let's organize a cc.com rope-up for Christ event, Bug, and teach them... if our thread is not hijacked, then locked. Quote
RuMR Posted April 14, 2008 Posted April 14, 2008 cheney = satan wolfowitz = beezelbub End of story carry on... Quote
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