rob Posted February 12, 2008 Posted February 12, 2008 he's convinced obama is a "sleeper-agent" and is secretly a muslim who will hand the keys over to the terrorists as soon as he's elected. Quote
pink Posted February 12, 2008 Posted February 12, 2008 your parents are from a different era. where did your parent grow up marylou and rob? Quote
marylou Posted February 12, 2008 Posted February 12, 2008 Ok so my dad's got racist bones in his body, but he's not crazy at least. Quote
rob Posted February 12, 2008 Posted February 12, 2008 My father graduated in 1968, I think. He's not really that crazy, either, but he's convinced every muslim implicitly supports terrorism. It's the communists all over again. Quote
pink Posted February 12, 2008 Posted February 12, 2008 seems like he did a hell of a job raising you, i'm sure he's a great man. Quote
rob Posted February 12, 2008 Posted February 12, 2008 I love you too, man. But no kissies, though, OK? Quote
Fairweather Posted February 12, 2008 Posted February 12, 2008 I agree. Her actions are juvenile. It seems to be legal, if you only vote once. As to whether or not it poisons the process for the rest us, I disagree. The process is already poisoned and corrupt (though better than smoke filled rooms). Â I know this might shock and upset some here, but it looks like I might get stuck at work until after the polls close tomorrow night. It all depends on the whims of the employees of a major software corporation based in Redmond, Washington at this point. Â I am still optimistic that I will get done with work in time, just to upset and irritate folks who think I am commiting a terribly wrong and immoral act. Take solace in the fact that I have crossed parties in many primaries prior to this, if nothing else. It is within my rights to leave work early in order to vote, but I'm not willing to turn down the O/T just to make a point, at this point. It seems I've already made my point. Â Â You're not only immoral, but stupid too - at least for someone who claims to be so involved in politics. The primary is FEBRUARY 19th - that's not tomorrow...it's NEXT WEEK. But feel free to mark your "X" on any old piece of toilet paper after you get off work. Un-fucking be-lieveable. Quote
marylou Posted February 12, 2008 Posted February 12, 2008 (edited) My father graduated in 1968, I think. He's not really that crazy, either, but he's convinced every muslim implicitly supports terrorism. It's the communists all over again. Â My dad graduated from things at various times, some in the '60s. He was a McGovern supporter but then went semi conservative as he got older. Now married to a liberal attorney in the mold of Hillary C. Â Apparently I just never knew he had racist leanings. The way he and my mom raised me, it is (was) the farthest thing from my mind. Â That said.... hmmmmm. Edited February 12, 2008 by marylou Quote
olyclimber Posted February 12, 2008 Author Posted February 12, 2008 The primary is FEBRUARY 19th - that's not tomorrow...it's NEXT WEEK. Â ok...that is funnier than hell. Quote
Fairweather Posted February 12, 2008 Posted February 12, 2008 I should have kept quiet. I can picture her ditching her mop and cleaning supplies early, racing wildly downtown in a smoke-cloud '73 Subaru, running all out of breath up to her precinct, and pressing her steamy snout up against the locked glass door while looking into the darkened room--tears streaming down her chubby pink cheeks... Quote
Hugh Conway Posted February 12, 2008 Posted February 12, 2008 To squash Fairweathers dreams by crossing party lines - the insolent strumpet daring to thumb her nose at our corporate overlords! Quote
mattp Posted February 12, 2008 Posted February 12, 2008 nah, fuck the "our side, their side" shit. We're all in this together, and I for one want a real leader for our real problems. Â I don't know if you are for real or not. Yes, the parties suck and I am no fan of the Democratic machine. But partisanship is not going away even if Obama can voice the idea that we need to transcend some of it. Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted February 12, 2008 Posted February 12, 2008 I should have kept quiet. I can picture her ditching her mop and cleaning supplies early, racing wildly downtown in a smoke-cloud '73 Subaru, running all out of breath up to her precinct, and pressing her steamy snout up against the locked glass door while looking into the darkened room--tears streaming down her chubby pink cheeks... Â You must feel stupid and immoral. Quote
Hugh Conway Posted February 12, 2008 Posted February 12, 2008 I should have kept quiet. I can picture her ditching her mop and cleaning supplies early, racing wildly downtown in a smoke-cloud '73 Subaru, running all out of breath up to her precinct, and pressing her steamy snout up against the locked glass door while looking into the darkened room--tears streaming down her chubby pink cheeks... Â You must feel stupid and immoral. Â he's not smart enough Quote
marylou Posted February 12, 2008 Posted February 12, 2008 Who knew FW had such a flair for creative writing? Quote
rob Posted February 12, 2008 Posted February 12, 2008 hey, do you think you'll be able to ditch your cleaning supplies early enough to go vote next week? Quote
Crux Posted February 12, 2008 Posted February 12, 2008 I should have kept quiet. I can picture her ditching her mop and cleaning supplies early, racing wildly downtown in a smoke-cloud '73 Subaru, running all out of breath up to her precinct, and pressing her steamy snout up against the locked glass door while looking into the darkened room--tears streaming down her chubby pink cheeks... You must feel stupid and immoral.he's not smart enough Ignorance is no excuse! Aiding and abetting is -- ACTIONABLE!!! Quote
prole Posted February 12, 2008 Posted February 12, 2008 More contempt for working people by working-class people. Now that we're on the topic FW, maybe you could give Marylou a ride to the polls in your Pepsi (oops, Coke) truck. Quote
rob Posted February 12, 2008 Posted February 12, 2008 nah, fuck the "our side, their side" shit. We're all in this together, and I for one want a real leader for our real problems. Â I don't know if you are for real or not. Yes, the parties suck and I am no fan of the Democratic machine. But partisanship is not going away even if Obama can voice the idea that we need to transcend some of it. Â No, I'm guilty of partisanship sometimes, too. And you're right, partisanship won't just go away. But that doesn't mean we should help keep it alive, right? Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted February 12, 2008 Posted February 12, 2008 I should have kept quiet. I can picture her ditching her mop and cleaning supplies early, racing wildly downtown in a smoke-cloud '73 Subaru, running all out of breath up to her precinct, and pressing her steamy snout up against the locked glass door while looking into the darkened room--tears streaming down her chubby pink cheeks... Â More of your fictions! Quote
marylou Posted February 12, 2008 Posted February 12, 2008 hey, do you think you'll be able to ditch your cleaning supplies early enough to go vote next week? Â Gosh, I don't know Rob! We wouldn't want anyone living with a dirty floor, doncha know. Â Â I might just take next week off anyway. I could use the time to overthrow the government and maybe invade a foreign country, like say, Eastern Washington. Quote
kevbone Posted February 12, 2008 Posted February 12, 2008 Hillary or Obama for Pres…….then who ever is not should be vice pres……with John Edwards as AG……oh yeah…… Quote
chucK Posted February 12, 2008 Posted February 12, 2008 (edited) Better would be Obama for Prez with Clinton for Chief of Staff Edited February 12, 2008 by chucK Quote
dmuja Posted February 12, 2008 Posted February 12, 2008 Barack Obama gives me hope. Â Â Something I read online about him (though I forget where???).."He is collaborative not polarizing. He is brilliant not cunning. He is optimistic not angry." Â Pretty right on I think. Â Some things I'll add... Â I like that he answers questions sincerely, thoughtfully, almost like his mind is actually present within or near his body - something we are not used to in most politicians, maybe most people. I noticed this when he came to Washington state last year. I hope it continues. Â He is not perfect of coarse, but contrasted with other politicians he stands out - and not just because he is a shade darker. The main reason is that he does not leave one with the feeling that he is bought and paid for, he seems to be "his own man". Over time though, that could change. I hope not. Â People seem to be projecting onto him a bit of the idealized "savior" type archetype, however you have to give him the credit for providing the right template and right temperament for that projection. Unfortunately this has a quick downside if/when his "all too human" reality shatters our fragile belief in cartoon heros. I hope that doesn't happen til way after the election. Â Around the world, the image of America will be enhanced and maybe even remade with Obama as prez. He is aware of this himself and I have already read news online from overseas that indicates as much. He -and maybe even we- will be respected and welcomed globally (at least more so) and things will change for the better for us here because we will again have friends in other nations. I hope he is really really good at international diplomacy. Â As for the "elect ability factor", right now I think Obama has a better shot than Hillary - polls are now showing this btw. Just "her" name brings out so many strong, emotional, negative, impulsive responses in certain people so inclined that these people would probably show up at the polls just to vote her down when otherwise they would just stay home. I hope the Dems are smart enough to realize this. Â I will vote for Obama for all the above reasons and despite the fact that his speech at Key arena was whack, lacking alot of detail and generally sucked in comparison to Shrillary's (I give her credit for having better organization at this point). A president - is mostly a symbol, a figurehead - doesn't necessarily have to have all the answers though, nor all the details, he just aught to be able to inspire those around him. Right now Obama does that. Maybe the luster will wear off, probly will for sure. I hope that doesn't happen for a while though. Â and so, because of Barack, I have hope Quote
prole Posted February 12, 2008 Posted February 12, 2008 Â HOPE?! I'll give you hope, godammit! Â Quote
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