Church of Climbing

[G-spotter]

Worship the holy

[ClimbingPanther]

Worship the holy

shoot, no. aren't they like demons or something? that's why kansas is such a hell. prarie-snaffles with no mountains to offset the evil.

[rob]

if climbing is a religion, can I claim deductions on my gear? Sign me up.

 

[EWolfe]

 

We have all felt it at some point.

 

Is there a good reason not to make it official?

 

 

[Toast]

Father, forgive me for I have sinned. It's been three weeks since I last went to church.

[Buckaroo]

I recently attended mass in one of the greater cathedrals just north of here.

 

[Raindawg]

Thanks for the thread drift, now can we get back on subject?

 

As a user group and coalition, a religious doctrine would strengthen our stand.

 

What are some of the experiences that enlighten or doctrines of climbing as a religious experience? Please be serious.

 

Experiences that Enlighten:

 

1. Connection to the Earth

2. Celebration of life

3. Trust

 

Others?

 

Move this crap to spray...you guys don't know from religion!

 

 

[billcoe]

Kosher cigarette Dawg?

[G-spotter]

Erik's desire to start a new religion probably has more to do with "altar boys" than anything else

[EWolfe]

It's not new. I am merely trying to define and organize spiritual fulfillment that already exists.

 

I am a Taoist, so it seems natural to me.

 

Thanks, Buckaroo. ...

[Mos_Chillin]

...and Tvash is unconscious, smeared with peanut butter...

...

sounds like ewolfe's (aka pillow-muncher) fantasy of heaven...

 

In the church of climbing, RuMR would be like the fire-and-brimstone guy at the 5th Ave plaza, more detractor than anything due to his own agenda.

[G-spotter]

haha someone's gonna be at 9999 forever

[ScottP]

"Don't bogart that joint, my friend...

Pass it Over to me."

 

What are some of the experiences that enlighten or doctrines of climbing as a religious experience? Please be serious.

 

Experiences that Enlighten:

 

1. Connection to the Earth

2. Celebration of life

3. Trust

 

Others?

 

Seriously...

Isn't an intense focus in the pursuit of The Goal one of the tenets of both religion and climbing?

 

 

[Mos_Chillin]

Thank you, Scott

 

[Raindawg]

Kosher cigarette Dawg?

 

Depends on your perspective. Here are some:

 

Is Smoking Kosher?

 

Israeli cigarette warning labels in Hebrew:

Clockwise from top left: Cigarettes hurt your physical fitness; Cigarette smoke hurts your children and those around you; Smoking causes premature aging of facial skin;

Each cigarette brings 43 carcinogenic substances into your body.)

[Raindawg]

It's not new. I am merely trying to define and organize spiritual fulfillment that already exists.

 

I am a Taoist, so it seems natural to me.

 

Thanks, Buckaroo. ...

 

 

[Mos_Chillin]

Hummingbird is my heart spirit. Joy!

 

Thanks for that RainDawg.

[ClimbingPanther]

you re-emerged from quite an absence!

[Cairns]

It's not new. I am merely trying to define and organize spiritual fulfillment that already exists.

 

I am a Taoist, so it seems natural to me.

 

Thanks, Buckaroo. ...

 

 

If it can be defined it is not genuine Tao.

 

 

[sk]

It's not new. I am merely trying to define and organize spiritual fulfillment that already exists.

 

I am a Taoist, so it seems natural to me.

 

Thanks, Buckaroo. ...

 

 

If it can be defined it is not genuine Tao.

 

 

Tao is the opposite of defined and organized. if it already is so why must you make it so?

 

for reals though, i am down with the church of climbing. in thinking about it many of the Taoist principles apply as do many of the principles of druidism. I am personally torn. On one hand i can see that it would be of our benefit and give us "spiritual ground" to stand on when people of other faiths proclaim that we can not climb on their rocks because it is against their religion...

 

If climbers could actually work together and have some kind of coalition a lobby and gain some political influence we could work towards our own agenda rather than being at the whim of others who do not understand our needs.

 

on a more spiritual side of things, it is my firm belief that god hates it when you pray inside a building. he created this beautiful diverse amazing planet and people go INSIDE a building to pray to god... i have never understood that. seems like blasphemy to me.

 

can i write the book and be a guru and travel all over the world spreading the word? that would make me so happy

 

 

[Chad_A]

 

What would our definition of Hell be?

 

I've already been there. It's called Huaraz, and they only have light beer.

[rob]

If climbers could actually work together and have some kind of coalition a lobby and gain some political influence we could work towards our own agenda rather than being at the whim of others who do not understand our needs.

 

fuck that. What is "our" agenda? Fortunately, I doubt very much the climbing community is cohesive enough for this to work. The last thing I want is some fucking group to decides what "our agenda" is.

 

Climbing is a way of communing with the very nature of existance. Standing atop a remote summit, viewing the world, I am reminded of the complete and utter insignifigance of humanity, and I am awed by the beautiful, but simple fact, that the universe even exists at all.

 

Humans and all the bullshit emotions and rules and laws and definitions that we cling to completely ruin that emptiness. Climbing as a religion must be equally without formal rules, organization or dogma, lest you destroy the very thing that makes it special.

 

[Raindawg]

The answers to all your questions regarding the formation of a "climbing church" can be found in

 

THE BOX (Click here to look inside)

 

 

[pope]

Thanks, Dwayner. That's going to save me a bundle of money this holiday season.

[kevbone]

What would our definition of Hell be?

 

Talking politics with Seahawks.