G-spotter Posted July 3, 2007 Posted July 3, 2007 Saw this reported on another site: while climbing Liberty Bell Saturday we watched a climber come off about 1/2 way up Concord Tower, pull out all of his gear (3 pieces, not sure if they were all cams) on the way down, and (didn't see this part, but found out when we got down) deck, then take his belayer off with him into the gulley. They told us later the fall was something like 75 feet. Amazingly, they both ended up suspended from the belayer's anchor cordellete above the gulley, and were relatively unharmed though shaken up. Their two partners who had summited Concord moments earlier communicated through us to the fallen climber and his belayer, and rapped down quickly to assist in the rescue. We met them belaying the climber (who was banged up and in a bit of shock but moving well under his own steam) all the way down the gulley to the Blue Lake trail. We offered our assistance but they didn't need help. He got out okay by 9:30 that night as we were marshalling our gear back at the parking lot. We met the other two climbers Sunday on South Early Winters Spire. They couldn't tell if the gear pulled because was inexperienced or because of the rock. One thing is for sure - that guy used up all 9 of his lives on that fall. Quote
plexus Posted July 3, 2007 Posted July 3, 2007 :noway: Wow!! That friggin sucks. I'm glad they are both OK and it was a clean fall. Damn!! Never seen a full-on zippering out and hope I never do. Quote
Kat_Roslyn Posted July 3, 2007 Posted July 3, 2007 I heard about it while I was up there, but also heard he was walking out fine, so we figured he was okay. If 3 pieces come out on a fall though, probably user error. Glad he was walking out. Quote
ZimZam Posted July 3, 2007 Posted July 3, 2007 He decked from 75', and then walks away. Very fortunate. Wow. Glad he's OK though. Quote
TyClimber Posted July 3, 2007 Posted July 3, 2007 I have never done it myself, but zippering out your gear must be scary as hell. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74Hng-H0qNM&mode=related&search Quote
goatboy Posted July 3, 2007 Posted July 3, 2007 Wow -- what a ride -- it's amazing the things that people walk away from... would love to hear the full tale when it's ready to be told... Very glad everyone is okay.... Quote
Rad Posted July 3, 2007 Posted July 3, 2007 Hope all parties are ok. That Osman video was probably staged. Experienced climber who likes to catch big air has multiple pieces rip on a gently overhanging route while the camera is rolling... For some real footage: Whimpering Brits catch air Quote
high_on_rock Posted July 3, 2007 Posted July 3, 2007 The Osman footage was staged. He cut his draws about three quarters of the way so the draws "broke" not pieces pulling. Quote
catbirdseat Posted July 3, 2007 Posted July 3, 2007 Ask CBS, he was belaying. I wasn't belaying. I was on the summit and could hear the fall. The account provided by Dru is not quite accurate. He did pull out all his pieces which included a Green Alien and a medium nut. He fell about 30 ft hitting the ledge and then bounced off and was caught by the rope, not exactly a FF2 fall because of the ledge. The belay held. The fallen climber was lowered the remaining distance to the floor of the gully. The belayer rapped down as soon as the climber was able to untie from the rope with one hand. He broke his thumb in the fall. He is recuperating at home and is expected to make a full recovery. Why the gear pulled out is probably a combination of user error and one or more expanding flakes. He's a novice trad leader. He says he plans to get back on the horse. Quote
goatboy Posted July 3, 2007 Posted July 3, 2007 Sounds like the standard N Face route, then? Big difference between a 30 foot fall with a good belay anchor vs. the 75 foot fall ripping both climbers into free fall described above.... Glad your buddy is okay! Quote
layton Posted July 3, 2007 Posted July 3, 2007 Dylan wants his poles back if you're the party that "borrowed" them for the rescue. Quote
mkporwit Posted July 3, 2007 Posted July 3, 2007 As the guy holding the belay... I'd say the fall was 70+ feet or so. We were on the second pitch. My partner was 30-35 feet above me, fell, pulled out a green alien, #9 BD nut and .75 BD cam, and fell past me over the ledge. He did not deck, but was caught by the rope ~30 feet off the ground. I was spun around ~90 degrees by the fall -- I was facing the face when he started falling, and he fell past me on my right. I came taut against the belay when I was spun around. I lowered my partner to the notch, and then we self-rescued. Quote
goatboy Posted July 3, 2007 Posted July 3, 2007 If you don't mind my asking: Were you clipped in to the anchor with a daisy, or with the climbing rope itself? Either way, nice catch!!! :[] robo-belayer! Quote
blueserac Posted July 3, 2007 Posted July 3, 2007 Wow, that is one way to gain knowledge and wisdom; that sucks. What route were you guys doing, and any speculations to what occured both leading to the event and what the event was? Quote
mkporwit Posted July 4, 2007 Posted July 4, 2007 I was into the cordelette with a clove hitch on the actual rope. Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted July 4, 2007 Posted July 4, 2007 I was into the cordelette with a clove hitch on the actual rope. I think you've just found a few thousand people who'd trust you as a belayer. :-) Quote
DirtyHarry Posted July 4, 2007 Posted July 4, 2007 Man, people really need to get some skills before they try to climb on gear. Because the mountains will fuck you up if you don't. Quote
dylan_taylor Posted July 4, 2007 Posted July 4, 2007 (edited) Mike is right. I would like my pole back. My Girlfriend and I were climbing the NW face of Liberty Bell that day, so we didn't witness the fall. But on the summit, we did meet the Canadian climbers who witnessed the event from the Beckey Route, and they filled us in. I am glad the climber survived the fall and made it out in one piece. Earlier that day we had left our poles in the LB approach gulley. When my GF and I descended the gully, one of my poles had been broken by rockfall(?) while the other one was missing. We soon found that my other trekking pole was in use by the self-rescuing party, and I hope it was helpful to them. I would also like to see if I can get it returned soon, as I fly to Europe next wednesday. The pole was brand new, as I had just bought it to replace a previously stolen pair. Hopefully, those of you involved found my mailing address on your car windshield? Thanks, and glad to hear the faller is recovering well. -Dylan Taylor Edited July 4, 2007 by dylan_taylor Quote
neverenough Posted July 4, 2007 Posted July 4, 2007 Marcin and Henry, Sorry to hear about you accident on Sun. Glad no one hurt seriously---- Quote
mkporwit Posted July 4, 2007 Posted July 4, 2007 Dylan, I have your trekking pole, and your note from my windshield. I'll be sending you the pole via UPS on Thursday, and I'll send you the tracking number for that as soon as I have it. Unless you're planning on being in West Seattle between now and then, in which case I'll leave it at Mountain Madness. Thanks for letting us use the pole -- it came in very handy on the hike out. Quote
Lisa_D Posted July 4, 2007 Posted July 4, 2007 Really scary.. as a new trad leader, this is what I'm hoping to avoid.. Wow. Glad everything worked out for the best, though! Quote
plexus Posted July 4, 2007 Posted July 4, 2007 I think you've just found a few thousand people who'd trust you as a belayer. :-) Amen to that!! Quote
dylan_taylor Posted July 4, 2007 Posted July 4, 2007 Mkporwit: Thank you guys for the return of the pole. UPS sounds fine. Glad to hear the pole was helpful. I would be interested (as would others, perhaps) on the details of the pulled gear. I would also be curious to know if your cordalette was one or two strands around the "anchor" (a block, horn, etc?) - redundancy with skinny nylon can be a real life saver in those situations. One other word of caution: It was cool to see you guys effectively lowering your partner down the lower LB gully - but use extreme caution when lowering someone with that much rope out: You had close to 400' of line available in your lowering system, and that is bound to knock plenty of rock off (like the grape-fruit sized block that almost took my head off). Considering the angle, shorter lowers or occasional hip-belays may have worked better/kept you guys safer from rockfall. Plenty of wild events and close calls occur during each of our climbing careers that serve to educate us and our peers on what to do differently next time. Hopefully valuable lessons were learned all around on Saturday. I hope all of you enjoyed some beer at the end of that endeavor. It was well-earned. Good luck on all your future climbs and may your friend recover quickly. Cheers, Dylan Quote
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