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my older brother is mentally challenged. we grew up constantly fighting off bullies. it was very sad and still is to think back on it. so, i cant help but clench my fist when i see or hear someone making "retard" comments. often taken too far, even if its meant as a joke.

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my older brother is mentally challenged. we grew up constantly fighting off bullies. it was very sad and still is to think back on it. so, i cant help but clench my fist when i see or hear someone making "retard" comments. often taken too far, even if its meant as a joke.

right up there with ethnic humor :tdown:

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nothing wrong w/ making fun of retards, queers or catholics or any other group so long as everyone under the sun gets the same treatment - like the drill instructor from full metal jacket says - here you are all equally worthless

 

that said, making fun of folks for the deliberate purpose of hurting them is lame, more so if they're incapable of defending themselves - but if we're to treat all folks equally, then either no one gets fucked w/, or everyone does - the trick is in the balance, in being the cheeky-fun-loving-asshole, not-the-fuck-your-sister-in-her-cornhole-and-tell-everyone-on-the-playground-about-it kind

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...making fun of folks for the deliberate purpose of hurting them is lame, more so if they're incapable of defending themselves...

 

WTF?1?

 

All the fun's gone... no more poking fun at Kevbone.

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I think it's ok to say something like, "Kevbone is retarded," but it's over the line if you make fun of somebody with a real physical imparement.

 

Never stopped you in the past.

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right up there with ethnic humor :tdown:

 

I agree.

 

Just as with "ethnic humor," I think the politically correct sensibility is overdone at times and a joke should just be a joke -- and I even got a grin out of the post that kicked this discussion off. However, this kind of thing can be very hurtful and there is a real reason that so many people have decided that certain words, perjorative humor, or stereotype images are taboo. This applies equally whether taking swipes at retards or ragheads.

 

The context is important, too: comments between climbing partners who understand each other's humor and values may be viewed differently than posts to a public bulletin board that are going to be read by people you don't really know. There are probably equally amusing and certainly more clever ways to take swipes at each other around here.

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I don't know. I used to occasionally hang out with a bunch of tards (my ex volunteered for the Ski-for-All program, and I helped out sometimes. The tards I met were comfortable with who they were and wanted pity from no one. Some required assistance, some led remarkably independent lives and were proud of it.

 

The Ski for All staff didn't walk on egg shells around them. They treated them like who they were; ski racers and friends. Lots of the racers had excellent senses of humor, and took both give a take a potshot. OK, there was the cautionary comments about not masterbating in the lift line, and occasionally a ski racer had to be reminded that it was time to stop making snow angels and actually race, but all in all the relationship wasn't that much different than it is between all of us here. Do we walk on eggshells around each other? I think not.

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That's part of my point, Tvash. People who have a relationship with each other understand the context for comments about not masturbating in the lift line or taking a break from the snow angels; the same kind of comments from someone they don't know or offered in a different context might not be quite as comfortable.

 

I agree that we often become dogmatic and sometimes stray into the realm of the ridiculous in the name of "sensitivity" or "civility" but I think there is a reason some here have commented that jokes about retards are generally not funny.

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My uncle had cerebral palsy. While he was alive the only job he could hold down was to sell candy for the Spastic Club. That's what they called their group publicly. Now a days calling someone a spaz could be viewed as rude if they actually have medical problems, but back in the old days that was just the term used to describe the condition.

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