"Why My FREEDOM Fries Taste Sweeter Today...."

[TBay]

The Payoff: 30+ years of Socialism

[chucK]

And here's our payoff!

(for avoiding all aspects of socialism, even the good ones)

Edited November 4, 2005 by chucK

[archenemy]

These are the same folks who protest SUVs by letting out the air.

[cj001f]

It'd never happen here

[catbirdseat]

Rioting doesn't seem like the most logical way to protest discrimination. Rather, I think it will help ensure it.

[Dru]

Rioting doesn't seem like the most logical way to protest discrimination. Rather, I think it will help ensure it.

 

Wow! translate that into French, and it will outsell Foucault and Camus together!

[chucK]

"Riot the unbeatable high

Riot shoots your nerves to the sky

Riot playing into their hands

Tomorrow you're homeless

Tonight it's a blast!"

[cj001f]

Rioting doesn't seem like the most logical way to protest discrimination. Rather, I think it will help ensure it.

Shit, revolution isn't the most logical way to obtain liberty

[catbirdseat]

They have liberty. They just want the government to give them jobs instead of starting their own business.

[Dru]

And in 1968 they wanted the government to take their tests for them.

[Recycled]

I'm sure that the 35 hours work week in France created a lot of jobs for under/unemployed hoods.

 

France has such a history of legitimate street protests that they have a hard time figuring out how to deal with thugs using riots as a cover for mayhem. Kinda a cultural thing, I believe.

[cj001f]

France has such a history of legitimate street protests that they have a hard time figuring out how to deal with thugs using riots as a cover for mayhem. Kinda a cultural thing, I believe.

 

[TREETOAD]

Fresh rioting broke out on the outskirts of Paris overnight as gangs of youths challenged authorities' vows to crack down on urban violence that has plagued the French capital for over a week

 

It figures that the French would only have fresh rioting each day, none of that stale shit from the day before.

[archenemy]

They have liberty. They just want the government to give them jobs instead of starting their own business.

[Dave_Schuldt]

So what did the French think would happen when they brough in a bunch of guest workers to do the dirty jobs. Did they think they would go home? They're stuck with the imagrants and need to encourge them to join society. The French will just have to learn to live with the foregners or the riots will continue. Sadly rioting is the best way to get the polititians attention.

[archenemy]

So what did the French think would happen when they brough in a bunch of guest workers to do the dirty jobs. Did they think they would go home? They're stuck with the imagrants and need to encourge them to join society. The French will just have to learn to live with the foregners or the riots will continue. Sadly rioting is the best way to get the polititians attention.

Somehow I think taking away their paychecks would get a politicians undivided attention STAT

[Stefan]

Even the rioters need to take a vacation break in France.

[KaskadskyjKozak]

The Payoff: 30+ years of Socialism

 

There was a thread on this b-board not too long ago, asking "how long can we stand it in the US, with all this injustice, before we must revolt".

 

How ironic that the liberal-utopian-socialist posterchild France is the one where the people are revolting.

 

:-))

[selkirk]

The Payoff: 30+ years of Socialism

 

There was a thread on this b-board not too long ago, asking "how long can we stand it in the US, with all this injustice, before we must revolt".

 

How ironic that the liberal-utopian-socialist posterchild France is the one where the people are revolting.

 

:-))

 

The populace in france revolts all the time. Why the hell do you think they've been through something like 15 constitutions in 200 some years?

[mattp]

KK, you're just still smarting because they were right about the fact that Saddam wasn't a threat to us, he had no WMD's, an invasion in Iraq was not a part of any war on terror, and it might in fact lead to an increase in terrorism.

 

Why don't you save your scorn for the guys responsible for igoring their own intelligence and getting us into this mess?

[TREETOAD]

Put some of this on your freedom fries

 

http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2005/11/04/torture-allegations051104.html

[foraker]

Why don't you save your scorn for the guys responsible for igoring their own intelligence and getting us into this mess?

 

Because that would be 'disloyal' and 'questioning authority'.

[Dechristo]

The populace in france revolts all the time.

Yeah, they're often revolting to many.

[Fairweather]

They have liberty. They just want the government to give them jobs instead of starting their own business.

 

Welcome aboard, Catbird! Your card is in the mail.

[JayB]

I really do think that integration is quite a bit more challenging in a country where national identity and ancestry are still closely interlinked. More challenging still when there's no cultural history of assimilating large numbers of immigrants, let alone large numbers of immigrants who are openly contemptuous and dismissive of the values that your civilization is founded upon, rather than seeing them as ideals to strive for.

 

Couple that with a disastrously low birth-rate, a rapidly aging population, and an inflexible labor market hiding behind high tarrifs and subsidies and you've got quite the cluster going on. Hopefully their efforts to integrate the new arrivals succeed, as that's their only hope IMO. Unfortunately, relativistic PC dithering in the place of an impassioned defense of Western values, coupled with unconditional welfare subusidies and a stifling labor market seems like a less-than optimal approach to dealing with immigration.

 

The US has its share of problems to deal with, but I'd take ours over theirs any day.