TrogdortheBurninator Posted June 10, 2005 Share Posted June 10, 2005 Anybody else see this: http://climbing.com/news/teva2005/ Freestyle bouldering - doesn't this seem to contradict the entire essence of climbing. The way I see it, bouldering is practice for sport climbing, sport climbing is practice for trad climbing, and trad climbing is practice for alpine climbing. Each of these have some net goal of an ascent. Each of these also develop skills that translate across the discipline. What the hell is freestyle dynoing practice for?.....Rock ballet? Impressing 7 yearold girls at the jungle gym? discuss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stemalot Posted June 11, 2005 Share Posted June 11, 2005 chill man, climbing competition is more or less for highly trained monkeys, besides, to each his/her own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlpineK Posted June 11, 2005 Share Posted June 11, 2005 Well the article certainly doesn't make me want to sign up for the special subscription deal. It's sad; there actually used to be some good stuff in those mags but no more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted June 11, 2005 Share Posted June 11, 2005 Anybody else see this: The way I see it, bouldering is practice for sport climbing, sport climbing is practice for trad climbing, and trad climbing is practice for alpine climbing. What is ice climbing practice for... skiing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrogdortheBurninator Posted June 11, 2005 Author Share Posted June 11, 2005 Scaring the Sh*t out of yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iain Posted June 11, 2005 Share Posted June 11, 2005 Ice climbing is practice for Alaskan crabbing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janez_Ales Posted June 11, 2005 Share Posted June 11, 2005 Anybody else see this: The way I see it, bouldering is practice for sport climbing, sport climbing is practice for trad climbing, and trad climbing is practice for alpine climbing. What is ice climbing practice for... skiing? Progression from Ice and Alpine continues to "funkynewagetradmixed" (used to be called simply (pretty damn hard)alpine and of course there will be dynos and climbing yoga moves, just like in bouldering, so you see, the circle is complete, the spiral continues, albeit on the "higher" level, so they say... or so we would like to think about it, cynism and sarcasm aside When asked if I am bouldering at all I say that I used to do a lot of it in ... dare to admit 87 when could not find anybody to take my adolescent bones out climbing after seeing a movie of some French star doing the American Crack, fell off - the crack that is, too bad my dream route Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Flash_Amazing Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Anybody else see this: http://climbing.com/news/teva2005/ Freestyle bouldering - doesn't this seem to contradict the entire essence of climbing. The way I see it, bouldering is practice for sport climbing, sport climbing is practice for trad climbing, and trad climbing is practice for alpine climbing. Each of these have some net goal of an ascent. Each of these also develop skills that translate across the discipline. What the hell is freestyle dynoing practice for?.....Rock ballet? Impressing 7 yearold girls at the jungle gym? discuss. Who knows, maybe it's...fun? Considering how many of you retrads seem to think slacklining has anything to do with climbing, you've hardly a leg to stand on kvetching about dynoing, regardless of how fruity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dberdinka Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 The way I see it, bouldering is practice for sport climbing, sport climbing is practice for trad climbing, and trad climbing is practice for alpine climbing. I think this idea got discarded around 1897. However it seems like a great rational for feeding the ego of Cascade "alpinists". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 "competitors each had 30 seconds to try a difficult dyno combination sequence." That's quick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 The way I see it, bouldering is practice for sport climbing, sport climbing is practice for trad climbing, and trad climbing is practice for alpine climbing. I think this idea got discarded around 1897. That's only because of the 1890's bolting technology though. Sport climbing was more dangerous back then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kix Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 bouldering is practice for bouldering. everything else is for people who like to dork out with ropes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrogdortheBurninator Posted June 13, 2005 Author Share Posted June 13, 2005 I wasn't trying to imply that bouldering/sporting/tradding are anyless important than one another, merely that for me personally most of my aspirations are in trad climbing and alpine climbing, therefor I see bouldering and sport as ways to get in shape (both mentally and physically) when I'm unable to do the others. I sport climb quite a bit and I enjoy it a lot. I also boulder in the gym during the winter. I am not knocking any of these things, just pointing out how I personally view them as benefitting one another. The main point I was trying to make is not about bouldering (which I think hard bouldering is incredible) or even dynoing, which is a lot of fun. The comment was intended to focus on the idea of freestyle dynoing (ie dynoing without the intent of completeing a route). To me this seemed like a lame ass attempt at improving commerciality of climbing to compete with other action sports (skateboarding, BMX, fruitbooting, etc). I guess I just thought it was silly to have a climbing competition whose goal was so completely detached from any form of real climbing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 bouldering is practice for bouldering. everything else is for people who like to dork out with ropes. Bouldering is practice for those who want to try to onsight the first move of Bale-Kramar at Careno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_Simpkins Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Remember what ASK MEN has to say about it: "Bouldering: This method consists of climbing small boulders without any equipment. Basically, it's like hiking with some obstacles thrown in. " So don't worry about it man. The Pad People are of no threat to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szyjakowski Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 bouldering is practice for bouldering. everything else is for people who like to dork out with ropes. bouldering is practice for "real" climbing. ...dorking out with ropes...that is rich. Is that what all you clan pad handlers come up with when your toting your R.M.H.Ps around..looking for that brilliant FA send up some baby rock, which probably was climbed years before? Give me and all the "roped-rock climbers" a break. You are a funny man. But thanks for the laughs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kix Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 bouldering is "real" climbing. "roped-rock climbers" engage in assisted dabbery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slaphappy Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 bouldering is "real" climbing. "roped-rock climbers" engage in assisted dabbery. you can't possibly be serious... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcollins Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 bouldering is "real" climbing. "roped-rock climbers" engage in assisted dabbery. Bouldering "might" be real climbing for some people, but come on you know deep in your adolescent heart that you really want to move on the something bigger, and you probably will.............when you can afford to buy a rope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCash Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 Why would you want to climb low angle choss like this, when you could play around sick 6' high pebbles like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kix Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 Why would you want to climb low angle choss like this, if it goes from a sit I might be tempted, otherwise, deconstructed properly, that would make for a fine pile of boulders. ropes are for water skiers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slothrop Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 You're way behind, kix. Sit-starts are all the rage in the Patagonian towers this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlpineK Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 I've been doing alpine sit starts for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szyjakowski Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 kix you are funny. I know the real reason is carrying the bong up the wall is difficult, so you resort to bouldering...everything is within arms reach always. kinda the kiss mentallity...good thinking and really just continue on yer bouldering quest. Less traffic for real climbers to pass. Thanks in advance~! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kix Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 traffic? like spending half a day behind a rope assisted dabbery clusterfuck? thats real climbing? everybody dangle! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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