Scott_J Posted March 17, 2004 Posted March 17, 2004 I was listening to NPR yesterday and the news woman was talking about terrorists and how they were tying to disrupt the (get this) NEW WORLD ORDER. Have I missed something? When did popular subversive government plots in conspiracy theories become common place for news broadcasts? I always thought the "New World Order" was just a joke with the libs and right wingers?? Quote
rbw1966 Posted March 17, 2004 Posted March 17, 2004 Wasn't it Bush the Elder who coined the phrase "New World Order"? Quote
Greg_W Posted March 17, 2004 Posted March 17, 2004 Don't believe that NPR is in the business to report "news", dude. They don't call it National Propaganda [/b] Radio for nothing. Quote
foraker Posted March 17, 2004 Posted March 17, 2004 One should always engage the old brain whilst listening to the media, be it NPR or Fox "News" Quote
Dru Posted March 17, 2004 Posted March 17, 2004 "as soon as I realized that the rock thing was true...I realized that there was only one thing to do - to ring a ling ling my ram a long ding dong" Quote
fenderfour Posted March 17, 2004 Posted March 17, 2004 Don't believe that NPR is in the business to report "news", dude. They don't call it National Propaganda [/b] Radio for nothing. Some call it commie radio... Quote
murraysovereign Posted March 17, 2004 Posted March 17, 2004 Without having heard the actual report to know the context in which it was used, I don't know which way to respond. Certainly, the term is thrown around by various groups as sort of a catch-all phrase to refer to all the perceived evils of globalization and US military hegemony and Big Oil (as distinct from "Small Oil", I suppose) and clear-cut logging and private health insurance. To some people, everything must be a conspiracy because there's no other way for them to explain that they don't understand what's happening. But the term "New World Order" is not solely the preserve of conspiracy-theorists. Adolph Hitler used it quite openly to describe his long-term vision for a world dominated by the Aryan race, and more recently President George Bush the First called for the establishment of a New World Order during Gulf War Sr. He was speaking in the immediate aftermath of the end of the Cold War and the collapse of the Soviet Union, and I don't think his intentions were quite so nefarious as Hitler's, but that didn't stop the conspiracy-theorists from latching onto his ill-chosen words and waving them about for all to see. Kinda like President George Bush the Second calling for a "New Crusade" in the wake of September 11: no-one seriously suggests that it was anything more than an unbelievably stupid choice of words, but it's not surprising at all that much of the Muslim world has been reluctant to help out. Some words and phrases have historical meanings that run far deeper than their dictionary definitions, like Holocaust, and Crusade, and New World Order. They need to be used with great caution, if at all. So while "New World Order" is just a joke in some instances, there have been recent instances of its legitimate, albeit ill-advised use at the highest levels in serious discussions of international relations generally and US foreign policy specifically. Quote
bunglehead Posted March 17, 2004 Posted March 17, 2004 Well put, Murray. I would personally add that people in positions of influence should refrain from using the term "Axis of Evil" as well. It's pretty loaded. Quote
murraysovereign Posted March 17, 2004 Posted March 17, 2004 (edited) "Axis of Evil" is one of Canada's more regrettable exports - right up there with Celine Dion and William Shattner. David Frum - the son of one of our all-time most esteemed CBC journalists - went off to Washington to write speeches for George II, and he wrote that "Axis of Evil" speech. He's back in Canada now, and HE WON'T SHUT UP ABOUT IT ALREADY!! Talk about a one-hit-wonder. Why couldn't you have deported him to Syria where he could be imprisoned and tortured, the way you do with so many other Canadian nationals? Edited March 17, 2004 by murraysovereign Quote
To_The_Top Posted March 17, 2004 Posted March 17, 2004 I was in Europe when GW did his speach on the "axis of evil", and talk about a speach going over like lead ballon. People were talking for days about it and I was asked several times "does he know what he's talking about?". It was a much different meaning outside of the US. Quote
lummox Posted March 17, 2004 Posted March 17, 2004 no joke mutha fuka. enjoy the 1000 points of light. beehotch. Quote
scott_harpell Posted March 17, 2004 Posted March 17, 2004 I was in Europe when GW did his speach on the "axis of evil", and talk about a speach going over like lead ballon. People were talking for days about it and I was asked several times "does he know what he's talking about?". It was a much different meaning outside of the US. Yeah. Lets just say where I was, GWB wasn't the most popular person on earth either. Quote
MrDoolittle Posted March 17, 2004 Posted March 17, 2004 Now why wouldn't GW be popular in a brothel full of phillipino boy-whores? Quote
scott_harpell Posted March 18, 2004 Posted March 18, 2004 I am not filipino. I am portugeese dipshit. Quote
Dr_Flash_Amazing Posted March 18, 2004 Posted March 18, 2004 "THE VISION IS A NEW WORLD ORDER ... THE VISION IS A NEW WORLD ORDER ... THE VISION IS A NEW WORLD ORDER ... come along and tell your sister and your brother!" Quote
rbw1966 Posted March 18, 2004 Posted March 18, 2004 I am portugeese dipshit. Is that some new kind of party condiment from geese fed with Port wine? Quote
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