Coopah Posted August 11, 2003 Share Posted August 11, 2003 I know it comes down to what feels comfortable for me but I would like to get others opinions of what style of leash to get and why. The two styles I am looking at are the BD Robo and the android. Anybody out there have experience with either or both and willing to pass on pros and cons of each? Thanks Coopah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen_Ramsey Posted August 11, 2003 Share Posted August 11, 2003 Whatever leash you select, I'd recommend making sure you can easily get in and out of it, even when the leash is iced over. I bought a pair of BD leashes (I think it was the Lockdown model) that were useless when iced over, because it was too much of a struggle to get in/out of them. Made it hard to place or clean screws, when climbing here in the Cascades. Bought a pair of Slider leashes instead, and they are much better. Â Just my $0.02 about leashes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodchester Posted August 11, 2003 Share Posted August 11, 2003 I have become a fan of the BD Lockdown. They are simple and effective. At first I had a hard time with them, and I had one of the detachable leashes. I do still like the detachable leashes, but after I got used to the BD Lockdown, it wins hands down.  It is very simple and once you get it down, it is easy to work with, you can get it off and on very easily. It is very secure feeling too, and cheap.  I can't imagine how these would be anymore useless than anyo other model when iced over. I have used the slider model and found it WAY more difficult to get on and of than the Lockdown.  2 cents  BD Lockdown  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jshamster Posted August 12, 2003 Share Posted August 12, 2003 I second everything said in above post. Â Lockdown leashes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted August 12, 2003 Share Posted August 12, 2003 I've had the Robo and haven't had trouble with it, but haven't subjected it to icing conditions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncascademtns Posted August 12, 2003 Share Posted August 12, 2003 Coopah said: I know it comes down to what feels comfortable for me but I would like to get others opinions of what style of leash to get and why. Thanks Coopah  Don't be cheap, buy one with a leash already attached. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coopah Posted August 12, 2003 Author Share Posted August 12, 2003 (edited) ncascademtns said: Coopah said: I know it comes down to what feels comfortable for me but I would like to get others opinions of what style of leash to get and why.   Thanks Coopah  Don't be cheap, buy one with a leash already attached.  What your off brand set? What would you know anyways since you like to scramble.. Edited August 12, 2003 by Coopah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coopah Posted August 12, 2003 Author Share Posted August 12, 2003 Thanks for your thoughts...it helps in my decision! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelawgoddess Posted August 12, 2003 Share Posted August 12, 2003 i've refrained so far, but now that i'm drunk i'm gonna say it. go leashless. it's the f'ing shit!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glassgowkiss Posted August 12, 2003 Share Posted August 12, 2003 thelawgoddess said: i've refrained so far, but now that i'm drunk i'm gonna say it. go leashless. it's the f'ing shit!!! lawgoddess- did you get hit by accident by a chunk of ice last season? or is the prozak not working ? Andreoid leashes- anything else would be uncivilized...even for alpine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncascademtns Posted August 12, 2003 Share Posted August 12, 2003 Coopah said:Â What your off brand set? What would you know anyways since you like to scramble.. : Â Them's Fight'n Words Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figger_Eight Posted August 12, 2003 Share Posted August 12, 2003 Androids are pimp. They make all other leashes feel clumsy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoboy Posted August 12, 2003 Share Posted August 12, 2003 Leashes are aid! Â That said, I have limited experience with the Android and like it, except it is hard to grab the top of a tool because the leash is fastened down to the shaft. I find it very comfortable. Â The Lockdown leash I have a little more experience with, and the one problem I have with it is that you can't get out of it with a tool that is placed high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin_B Posted August 12, 2003 Share Posted August 12, 2003 Coopah said: I know it comes down to what feels comfortable for me but I would like to get others opinions of what style of leash to get and why. The two styles I am looking at are the BD Robo and the android. Anybody out there have experience with either or both and willing to pass on pros and cons of each? Thanks Coopah  Easy G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelawgoddess Posted August 12, 2003 Share Posted August 12, 2003 glassgowkiss said: lawgoddess- did you get hit by accident by a chunk of ice last season? or is the prozak not working ? Andreoid leashes- anything else would be uncivilized...even for alpine  i'm not taking any fucked up medications, thank you. i just did most of my ice climbing (which isn't much) leashless ... and so tend to find leashes rather annoying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshK Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 I agree on the androids. I've loved mine ever since I got them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coopah Posted August 14, 2003 Author Share Posted August 14, 2003 Thanks for all the input. Since I am just a , I am not going leashless just yet so I decided to buy 1 android and 1 robo. I will try them out this weekend and see how it goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigWave Posted August 16, 2003 Share Posted August 16, 2003 I have too agree on the Easy-G, theyre the bomb- just make sure they work with your shafts....I've had trouble with the robos... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Led_Hed Posted August 16, 2003 Share Posted August 16, 2003 Lockdowns are the only way to travel. I was battling my BD twist leashes on the N. Face of Athabasca last week and finally resorted to whipin' out my knife mid-pitch and cutting the shaft loop from around each tool. My rubber shafted Black Prophets were gripping the wet leashes and keeping me from getting a proper grip on my tools. My partner uses lockdowns and I've been wanting them for a while. Very secure and versatile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeclimb9 Posted August 16, 2003 Share Posted August 16, 2003 Yates makes a few leashes. They're very well thought out, well made, and have no stupid oversights. I like the M9 handcuffs which come in both right and left handed forms (some manufacturers only make leashes with one-handedness). Yates has also just introduced detachable M9 hand cuffs which would be a good match for steep ice tools --even leashless styles. http://www.yatesgear.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken4ord Posted August 16, 2003 Share Posted August 16, 2003 When there is such a thing as Android leashes why use any other leash or go leashless for that matter. I think leashless tools will be a fad just like it was in NE at one point in the late 70's or 80's. Oh and BTW whoever said climbing with leashes is aid is wrong, climbing with ice axes is aid and who gives a crap of whether it is aid or not, it is fun, thats what really matters. Â When there is icing using Androids it is simple you clip, unclip, flick clip-in point and clip. Hmm, what 5 seconds at the most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted August 16, 2003 Share Posted August 16, 2003 androids were responsible for a party of 3 climbers on robson last year finishing the route with only 4 tools between them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken4ord Posted August 16, 2003 Share Posted August 16, 2003 Dru said: androids were responsible for a party of 3 climbers on robson last year finishing the route with only 4 tools between them  Was it the leashes or the people using them that were responsible for dropping their tools? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sphinx Posted August 16, 2003 Share Posted August 16, 2003 Dru said: androids were responsible for a party of 3 climbers on robson last year finishing the route with only 4 tools between them  Good thing that people using standard leashes never drop their tools.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted August 16, 2003 Share Posted August 16, 2003 ken4ord said: Dru said: androids were responsible for a party of 3 climbers on robson last year finishing the route with only 4 tools between them  Was it the leashes or the people using them that were responsible for dropping their tools?  yeah, Blanchard, Pellet and Dumerac what a bunch of gumbies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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