augustine Posted May 20, 2003 Share Posted May 20, 2003 what is the harder lead? split pillar or the sword? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dberdinka Posted May 20, 2003 Share Posted May 20, 2003 Split Pillar. If it was on the ground The Sword would be the easiest 5.11a in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erik Posted May 20, 2003 Share Posted May 20, 2003 ive only lead the pillar and followed the sword. i hung on the sword and flashed the pillar. so i would say the sword. Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lummox Posted May 20, 2003 Share Posted May 20, 2003 dberdinka said: Split Pillar. If it was on the ground The Sword would be the easiest 5.11a in the world. thats cuz its fucking 10d, dipshit. ana 10d is harder thana 10b. next stupid question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome Posted May 20, 2003 Share Posted May 20, 2003 The Sword is harder technically, but the Split is much harder. The Split is the best crack pitch I've ever lead. Â Jerome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lummox Posted May 20, 2003 Share Posted May 20, 2003 Jerome said: The Sword is harder technically, but the Split is much harder. The Split is the best crack pitch I've ever lead. Â Jerome you need to get out more often. i think the sword is a cooler lead. the exposure is more. but the split pillar is way cool, too. like comparing olde english 800 to king cobra: it all fuckin works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome Posted May 20, 2003 Share Posted May 20, 2003 lummox said: Jerome said: The Sword is harder technically, but the Split is much harder. The Split is the best crack pitch I've ever lead. Â Jerome you need to get out more often. i think the sword is a cooler lead. the exposure is more. but the split pillar is way cool, too. like comparing olde english 800 to king cobra: it all fuckin works. Â I do need to get out more! Got any money for me? Â And the Split is a cooler lead. Â Jerome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dberdinka Posted May 20, 2003 Share Posted May 20, 2003 lummox said: thats cuz its fucking 10d, dipshit. ana 10d is harder thana 10b. next stupid question. Â Ouch!! That kinda hurts my feelings. Please keep insulting me I like your icon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuMR Posted May 20, 2003 Share Posted May 20, 2003 Jerome said: lummox said: Jerome said: The Sword is harder technically, but the Split is much harder. The Split is the best crack pitch I've ever lead. Â Jerome you need to get out more often. i think the sword is a cooler lead. the exposure is more. but the split pillar is way cool, too. like comparing olde english 800 to king cobra: it all fuckin works. Â I do need to get out more! Got any money for me? Â And the Split is a cooler lead. Â Jerome Jerome, you tool, there's no bat shit or bird guano on split...how can it be a cool lead for you???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome Posted May 20, 2003 Share Posted May 20, 2003 RuMR said: Jerome said: lummox said: Jerome said: The Sword is harder technically, but the Split is much harder. The Split is the best crack pitch I've ever lead. Â Jerome you need to get out more often. i think the sword is a cooler lead. the exposure is more. but the split pillar is way cool, too. like comparing olde english 800 to king cobra: it all fuckin works. Â I do need to get out more! Got any money for me? Â And the Split is a cooler lead. Â Jerome Jerome, you tool, there's no bat shit or bird guano on split...how can it be a cool lead for you???? Â A pair of hardcore Smith climbers were retreating from Perry's Layback due to insufficient strength. Whimpering, shaking, and generally having a hellish time of it, they exuded from their skin much weakness in the form of guano. Â Through this I climbed; thusly did the pitch feel normal. Â Â Jerome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuMR Posted May 20, 2003 Share Posted May 20, 2003 Jerome...you crack me up  you style your hair w/ that "guano"??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome Posted May 20, 2003 Share Posted May 20, 2003 No need. Â Have fun in Yosemite! Â Jerome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaston_Lagaffe Posted May 21, 2003 Share Posted May 21, 2003 Speaking of the Grand Wall, how many hours (including waiting for slower parties to finish before you etc) has it taken you folks to climb to :1) to Bellygood, 2) to the top via Roman Pillars? Also, if you did the Roman Pillars finish, which route did you take? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jens Posted May 21, 2003 Share Posted May 21, 2003 Gaston_Lagaffe said: Speaking of the Grand Wall, how many hours (including waiting for slower parties to finish before you etc) has it taken you folks to climb to :1) to Bellygood, 2) to the top via Roman Pillars? Also, if you did the Roman Pillars finish, which route did you take? Â It will come down to who you get behind. Lots of people like to climb just the top of the split pillar and rap. The route can be clogged down low. Â As for comparing the two, I would call the split pillar much easier than the sword pitch. But Perry's lb is harder than both of those. The route is good fun though and is very feasible for the 5.11 leader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuMR Posted May 21, 2003 Share Posted May 21, 2003 Jerome said: No need.  Have fun in Yosemite!  Jerome  Cheers Jerome!  Yo-so-mighty is gonna kick some ass!! Hopefully not mine...we leave wednesday night at 8pm  I'M SOO STOKED!! Take care,  We have to hit squish some more this summer...  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lunger Posted May 21, 2003 Share Posted May 21, 2003 cake v. pie--i found the Sword less sustained but more difficult. both tasty perry's, if'n i recrawl correct-like, is an enduro-fest mostly about yer guns (after climbing some tough-ish pitches)--clip bolts and run for the no-hands rest. caveat: i'm a hack. stellar line, git on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fern Posted May 21, 2003 Share Posted May 21, 2003 Gaston_Lagaffe said: Speaking of the Grand Wall, how many hours (including waiting for slower parties to finish before you etc) has it taken you folks to climb to :1) to Bellygood, 2) to the top via Roman Pillars? Also, if you did the Roman Pillars finish, which route did you take?  It's the Roman Chimneys  The easier option above Bellygood is to finish up the Upper Black Dyke. adventure-bolted .10b I think.  I haven't done any of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glassgowkiss Posted May 21, 2003 Share Posted May 21, 2003 (edited) Gaston_Lagaffe said: Speaking of the Grand Wall, how many hours (including waiting for slower parties to finish before you etc) has it taken you folks to climb to :1) to Bellygood   2 hours 45 minutes in 1992 Edited May 21, 2003 by glassgowkiss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted May 21, 2003 Share Posted May 21, 2003 glassgowkiss said: Gaston_Lagaffe said: Speaking of the Grand Wall, how many hours (including waiting for slower parties to finish before you etc) has it taken you folks to climb to :1) to Bellygood   2 hours 45 minutes in 1992  Hey Bob, I call bullshit. Prove it hillbilly.  and don't give me that shit about putting a boot in my ass either, cause that crap don't fly with me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EWolfe Posted May 21, 2003 Share Posted May 21, 2003 (edited) Careful, there, Trask...Our man is pretty hard.... I think we did it to Bellygood in about twice that in '94.. Edited May 21, 2003 by MisterE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EWolfe Posted May 21, 2003 Share Posted May 21, 2003 I remember batmanning up the gym rope - a year before they took it down.. Â Jah, mon, the long-term memory ees not so good... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted May 21, 2003 Share Posted May 21, 2003 MisterE said: Careful, there, Trask...Our man is pretty hard.... I think we did it to Bellygood in about twice that in '94.. Â what's he gonna do, beat me up? shoot me? screw my momma? bwahahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daler Posted May 21, 2003 Share Posted May 21, 2003 I sure bob's time is good. I've done it in 3 1/2 car to to car. Just start early so your behind nobody and climbing in the shade. Â dale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lummox Posted May 21, 2003 Share Posted May 21, 2003 screw the fast time crap. climb the cruel shoes start and get style points instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daler Posted May 21, 2003 Share Posted May 21, 2003 Very True. I have done Cruel Shoes as the start many times and would have to agree. Although it should only add a couple of hours. I think Cruel Shoes is one of the best climbs at Squamish!!! Â dale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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