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Communism Glad to see that the discussion is back on track. I'm not particularly convinced by those arguments though, The "C" rock is easly explained by a hair in the reimaging process and a lack of stars seems easily attributed due to limitations in the exposure ranges of film, if you're photographing bright objects like silvery astronauts at close range you wouldn't pick up much dimmer objects in the background without blowing out the foreground. Curious as to why we never ever went back. Did the aliens inhabiting secret bases on the dark side of the moon scare us off? Interested also in seeing if the Martians destroy our latest probe as well.

I just read through all three pages of this crap and no one has yet told us HOW WAS THE MOON LANDING FAKED?

In B'ham there is a very successful enviromental organization that has openly expressed the desire to shut off large sections of the North Cascades to human access. One of their big projects is to "protect" the habitat of large mammals in cross-border areas. Protecting includes shutting humans out. It seems that many modern enviromentalists (at least one's holding the purse strings) tend to be content appreciating wilderness from a distance vs experiencing it. Those of us out there using and enjoying it tend not to consider ourselves real enviromentalists.

Peter_Puget are you sure you know what underlying data is being used to make your original quote? "Richest" general implies wealth not income. Furthermore the only people who care to compile such lists are at Forbes.com. Go there, look at their website. Their list of 400 richest people is based on wealth. Seems to me you're now making invalid assumptions about the underlying data in an attempt to maintain a postion that your very own data doesn't support (i.e. the mega-wealthy are far more generous than the rest of us) Please do tell how you know that the orginal article was referencing income and not total wealth. Does the full article reveal this? have you contacted the author?

DYSFUNCTION: The only consistent feature of all your dissatifying relationships is YOU.

I did a little research using census data and forbes magazine. Those 400 richest had a net total wealth of 1.235 trillion dollars in 2000 (forbes). Total household wealth in 2000 was 17.228 trillion dollars (census; 104,644,000 households * $164,635 mean assets). Do a little math. Those 400 richest hold 7.2% of total wealth in this country. 7.2% of wealth, 7% of charitable contributions AT BEST they are contributing no more than the average percentage of ones wealth contributed by all Americans in general. Considering that we all need to build a certain amount of wealth to provide economic stability throughout our lives, the less wealthly need to focus on their own financial security before they can make significant charitable contributions. As a result you would expect the wealthy to be able to share a much greater portion of their wealth than the average American. But..they don't as you have so nicely brought to our attention.

4 hr ski from the village? Thanks

Anyone ever been there in the winter? How easy is it too get into? Is the road regularly plowed as far as the first big junction? Looks to be 4.5 miles in from there. 1st or 2nd or 3rd hand beta greatly appreciated!

Da SNASSal fassal shassal on the right and SILVERTIP on the left YO!

YOU ARE ALL SO SUCK! If you're talking about real BC where you actually had to hump your ass out there why not just chill the faq out. Ski a different line if folks have beaten you to the punch. Or strike up a conversation and make a new friggin friend you wankers! They might just be diggin your ass out of the big ole' slab you're about to cut loose. What ever you do leave your lame ass BRO-BRA attitude back with the lemmings at the ski area where it belongs.

You're on. Open invite, Wednesday January 7th.

While leaving work yesterday the full moon had just started rising to the east. The skies were mostly clear so I threw my ski gear in the car, called up a friend and headed up to the Mount Baker Ski Area. Left the parking lot at 8 PM, skinned and booted up the East Side of Table Mountain, then skinned across the long summit plateau. Beautiful views of Shuksan, Baker and the lights of Bellingham and Vancouver. Dropped into whats called Table Saddle then skied 1400' of rolling terrain on the north face. A layer of hoar frost over 6" of light pow on a soft base made for delicious skiing. Back to the car by 10:20 and home by midnight. Beautiful sunrise this morning, Today looks good too, get after it while you can. Full moons and clear skies seem to happen more often than not. Gonna try and make it a monthly ritual.

A quick google search turned up a couple photos taken by a heli-pilot during the filming of said movie. LOOKS GRIPPING!

Matt (assuming you moved it) Crackbolter (uber wanker) Trask (at least he's got no delusions of grandure!)

Dru? Layton? I feel so left out

Im SURE the peaks are Habrich and Sky Pilot. Just SURE of it. SO GODDAM SURE!

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You can see it from the top of Green Giant Buttress. The snow coulior cutting across it's face actually looks like a good line in a spectacular setting. Other than that the rock looks truly horrid. Some type of metamorphosed-rotten-shist-hooky (actually I dont know what it is but it certainly looks like crap) I think there might be some walls in the Cascades that just can't, shouldn't and won't be climbed due to the exccedingly rotten nature of the rock. (Harry Majors makes reference to this idea in his E Face Mox Peak post) That is probably one of them.

Have fun boyz

Suck it Crackbolter I like talking about climbing and cool looking lines are something to talk about. Personally I'm not particularly motivated by FAs or FDs so I don't feel any need to not discuss undone lines. Having wandered around the Cascades for awhile I've seen a lot more lines than I have time (or skill!) to do. If someone reads a post then motivates to do something like ski the NE Coulior of Goode or maybe climb it's complete East Ridge or traverse W Ridge of Eldo-to-Torment-to-Forbidden-to-Sharfin-to-N Face-Buckner good for them! and good for Cascade climbing in general! It's just banter, and for the most part plainly visible to anyone who flips thru guidebooks. If you feel like your super secret projects are be revealed maybe it will motivate you to actually get out this year and do them.

Early October this year I got on a shuttle in Zion and chit-chatted with Ron Olevsky and Jeff Lowe. Both are pioneers of bigwall climbing in Zion and pretty much put up all the classics in the end of the canyon. Jeff has MS it was really quite depressing. Early November this year I was in Moab. Talked to Ron Olevsky again in a cafe. He thought we were wankers. Small little world sometimes. I also knocked Bird Lew off the trail to Applebee Dome once with my overloaded pack. She didn't look happy, we didn't actually meet. Fred Beckey refused to talk to me or my buddy one rainy day in Squamish Starbucks. Ole curmugin....

So what's the other half bee-yoch!

I've never been on the route, in fact I've never seen the route. I mean the big rock headwall that sits above the climb and is skirted on the right. Jim Nelson makes some reference to it as a challenge for future climbers..blah, blah, blah. Am I the only fool around here willing to openly discuss unclimbed lines, projects, etc.? Come on folks cough em up!

The guilt has been catching up to me. On my last extended weekend climbing trip I called in sick while driving to the airport. Now no more official time off (in fact burnt up a long time ago) until Jan 1. Must be productive employee, must increase shareholder value... I dream of being layed off....... I dream of being a part time barista......

Woke up at 5:30 AM. Clear, 24 degrees and 2 inches of new at Baker. Perfect conditions for covering LOTS of ground in the BC. Instead I went trail running (very nice) in the Chuckanuts, ate pancakes and came to work. THIS SUCKS!!!!!!