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Joe and Kevin, For some reason areas like Beacon seem to have a "locals only" feel to them, and you guys are propagating that attitude. Beacon is a crag, not a backcountry alpine climb; it's a crag next to a major metropolitan area. It is a place to practice you skills and have fun doing so at the same time. The reason people have been able to push the limits of climbing in far off ranges is because of training grounds like beacon. So if someone doesn't want to waste their time walking in random directions from their home, looking for a place to climb, then good topos and beta are necessary. If you don't want to know what the grade is or where a climb goes, then you have an easy choice: don't use the guidebook. If the reason for the negative attitude towards this topo is the person who made it and there's supposed to be a better one out, then whoever is working on that project should not be concerned. Many areas have multiple guidebooks and topos.

huh?

Don't everyone PM me for dates at once....

wow, archenemy and snugtop are actually pretty damn hot! Craziness!

I'd like to come and I've got a slideshow that requires no talking, but is on a DVD. Can Portlander's come?

it looks like a shit penis clearly the winner

what's the other guy doing????

Would you have been able to do the route considering you got pinned down that night (not that you knew that at the time mind you)? If that's the case, maybe you can take solace by the fact you were fuck anyways...and it's all Wayne's fault and that stupid dog.

fawk yeah!

John, I'm pretty sure Wayne put that shit there as a distraction. Da curse of da black spidah! You need at LEAST 14 attempts before you can start complaining. Do you have a photo of the parking lot and the cliff from that pack's location? It would be interesting to see.

praise the zombie jesus

care to write that more objectively and more succinctly...in 30 pages.

My shit was definitely in charge that day...so he was fired: out of my ass

Photos!

Porter, send this sickness!

Joseph, I can't recall exactly. Erik and I didn't do the 5.11 pitch that marcus and I did after you guys freed that section. We were somewhere close though. We freed the rest, including the loweball section and the roof finish...which when I did with marcus, we found it considerably different. Basically you, karsten, erik, and I all did a similar route with some variations here and there. I can't get into it more than that, it was too long ago and the whole area was pretty confusing/contrived...but fun.

Oh, sorry. Mike and Marcus did it with Jim providing ground control. I believe they said they did a couple of points of aid, so no one other than Karsten and myself to-date. Ken (Walla-walla) and Jason went up it with me last fall. I'm pretty sure Erik Linthwaite (IVAN) and I did it free 4 years ago. When Marcus and I did it, one pitch was different (the 1pt aid pitch) and that was after Joe and Karsten.

I'd have to agree that this is the fastest, easiest treatment for palpable ones. The tricky ones are the painful ones that aren't swollen. So Oly, was your bursitis, cellulitis instead?

sounds like his "bursitis" was cellulitis? Get better!

1st loser

Seriously, what did you think would happen with the snide title of your post? especially on this site? Just deal

Here are some things to do, or ask your chiropractor or PT to do. Protect the area...bumping it again will only make it take longer to heal. Ice it 20min on 60 min off as much as you can tolerate...careful over the "funny bone" area though. Apply kinesiotape over the bump for lymph/edema control Bromelain for the inflammation Cold Laser treatments Underwater, pulsed ultrasound 20% duty Bursitis of the elbow can last a LONG time, good luck

I really think it should be your own photo you took, not one that someone else pushed the button on. Otherwise I'm going to change my pics. If they want to win, then they should enter it.

Lame! Dude, eat healthy and train for the sport. It's not your diet. You probably are getting shitty at sport climbing b/c you're doing all that other stuff, not what you eat. Being strong and lean helps in every sport. Either commit or quit complaining.