AlpineK

I liked it too until crazyjz got mean Damn... you think he was being mean I thought he was being restrained.

You're asking a question that depends on two factors. 1. The space you have to cook in 2. The temperature at cooking time. In general I'd take a canister stove in the summer or whenever I was cooking on a non snow surface. In cold temperatures the isobutane canisters will burn the butane first and then the propane, so for half the life of the canister the stove will rock but it will suck for the last half. If you're going out in the winter and you have space for a white gas stove, take it. Likewise if you're climbing at higher elevation and it's winterlike then take the white gas stove as long as you have cooking space. If you're climbing a route with tiny ledges and you have to camp out then the gas canister stove may well be a better option no matter what the altitude.

How's the snow at Red? and Whitewater???

The first time I saw the poll it was way in favor of banning.

I talked to a friend on Saturday evening who had spent the day at Baker. He said the bottom of the hill was snow mixed with mud. Baker has the most snow of all the areas, so you connect the dots.

Oh I was banned. But you did unban me. I can't believe you spend money on a web site where the only thing that goes on is Trask, Mike Adamson, and Ray Borbon try and see who the biggest psycho is.

I've used filters when traveling with filter owners. I don't own one and thus don't use one. I've never had a problem. I am selective on where I'll drink from, but my selectivity goes down with thirst.

Yeah, I'm sure it is. I know they were building an aid climbing practice wall at the club house. Yes Mike I did watch the video...kids do the craziest things.

I guess I missed it when IG got banned. They should save some bandwidth and get rid of all the other forums other than the Battlecage; nobody uses the other ones.

I'm not sure...The last post I made I told them that they're all psycho and likely to go in to their place of work and shoot everyone. It might be something else though.

Did your neighbor hang the pig from a climb at the local crag? That's the shit.

I just found out I got banned from ASSentionist.com. I believe this is a first from the site where they said they wouldn't ban anyone for expressing an opinion. I'm so proud of myself:chestbeat: It's so funny and ironic. For those of you who would like to go for a second banning just let me remind you that I got the full IP ban.

Prince Scruff

La Grave rules!

When I vote in one of Mike's polls on women I stop and think...how can I help Mike make the biggest ass of himself in this situation. I never want to see Mike run out of angst.

Those guys are psycho.

Gaffs are for killing not for climbing a tree to prune it. Trust me you can get into 98% of the trees out there without them. You can fuck up whatever you want on your property, but if you're going to post a tr about a climb in bad style then you may as well be aiding a free climb at a crag packed with people.

Look lets say I'm bored. I decide that I'm going to have a fun time by going over to my neighbor's house and kick his dog for a while. As long as I don't get to agro the dog will be just fine...so there shouldn't be a problem. If you went out to Smith and started drilling and aiding a new bolt ladder right near 5 gallon buckets do you think someone would complain? There are ethics with all forms of climbing, and your ascent shows a total disregard for the ethics of tree climbing. On top of that I'm trying to tell you that there's a way to climb trees where you don't have to leave anything behind. So I'm also trying to help you save money too. I've climbed trees for about 15 years as a full time job, and I've never found one where I had to leave anything behind to get back to the ground. Your comments about what arborists do to trees are laughable, so I wont even bother to respond to them. You might try checking aout a book by Alex Shigo if you want to actually start learning about tree structure and the effects of pruning cuts. If you really want to climb trees, as I noted above, talk to my friend Vern he lives about 10 miles from Corvallis. I've been up 300' plus firs with him about 40 minutes drive from Corvallis.

CJZ told me I should look at this post. I'm fairly disgusted by what you did. I understand that you've probably never been instructed in proper tree climbing, so I'll try and help you a little should you choose to climb another tree. In the first place you are climbing a living thing for recreation. It is totally unacceptable to damage a tree for recreation. Even for work the only time we puncture the bark of a tree is when we are cutting it down. Secondly all you had to do is throw your rope over a stout enough branch crotch, rap out, then pull your rope. Doing it that way you would leave no gear. If you ever feel inclined to climb another big tree contact my friend Vern at Beuna Vista Arbor Care. Tell him Kurt says you guys need help. Do not ever do that again.

You should pay Jon what you feel is fair for what you drink.

Most things climbers do are arbitrary. You decide what the game is you make up the rules then you do it. I believe erden did cary his gear, but I don't think he caried all his food. I'm not really down with the self salesmanship, but if you want to do something big chances are you need sponsors and so you sell your self/idea.

I don't remember the details or the reasoning behind tolls on the new narrows bridge. I'm not totally opposed to tolls in the new tunnel, but keeping traffic moving smoothly around the port is going to benefit a lot of eastern washington farmers shipping grain and other exporters.

They're building that and everyone in Seattle's paying. I'm mostly psyched about bitchy nonresidents paying to improve Seattle streets.