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Nice photos Alasdair, especially number 6.

Will do.

No one has EVER been there? I really want to know if the routes lead up to their multi star ratings.

Anyone been up to the value village crags? wondering if it is worth the steep climb up. Looks pretty cool.

Omg summitchaser?? If only I was so cool! Or do you think it is the great one himslef soliciting the trade for firearms?

"cash only or trade for guns"

Training it is. Smedley only had 4 as well. Amazing I know!

Man- and I just got done talking you up! Dude 4 beers a piece for the weekend does not make for drunks or hardly buzzed for that matter. Now riff raff, well yes that is indisputable. I am sure Crystal Cave still smells like Cavenadians...and goats.

Well Played Mr. K! Riley and Ben are freaking great guys, who are always out for fun and play it safe enough to keep coming and going back. Nothing wrong with that. Not to mention that Riley is a freaking machine when it comes to breaking trail! Once again, way to go boyz!

Not tick one on the other side of the valley and way less people.

Snow Creek Wall Let me search that for you.

I don't see anything wrong with a bit of discussion regarding peoples TR's, giving it be done in a civil manner and maybe more than just throwing out a childish insult. But I have to agree you are 100% correct in your assesment. It is dissapointing to say the least.

Insightful and well developed as usual.

Nice one boys. We missed you in l-town and were wondering how it was panning out for you two. Good on ya!

It went well. spectacular bivouac on top of stump route. crystal cave route and scramble up past cockfight today. Good trip. Good handle on the modern names of the crags up higher now. And your adventure?

"I catch plenty of shit from plenty of folks for my Front Door Adventure show, but to tell you the truth I don't really care much. I decided a while ago that I was going to do things a little differently, a little slower and little more sustainably. I might never climb in the great ranges of the world, and I hold no delusion that riding a bike to the mountains is going to save the planet. I do have faith though that a few people will take notice of a guy having a lot of fun making an effort to leave the world a little better than he found it. Maybe one of those people will discover the richness that leaving the car behind adds to an adventure; that is good enough for me." From Matts Blog - Great sentiment. Right on Matt!

I'm heading over Saturday. Planning on some variation link up of lower and middle 8mile for sure. Definitely planning on some "rummaging" Sunday. I will check out the suggestions, thanks. If any other folks are around Saturday afternoon/evening and feeling like pointing out the goods, I will be enjoying the evening above the stump route There is a great chance there will be an extra beer or two in my pack for you.

Genes tape mitts are HOT!

You find a partner for this weekend?

So here is my question: I have climbed the Tree route on Eightmile buttress and linked it with the Stump route about a million times. On occasion I have scrambled up from the nice bivy area at the top of the Stump route to the base of the wall above and taken the descent gully on climbers left. However a few times I have from the top of the scramble and before climbing down into the descent gully, gone up and climbers right and ascended the right hand side of the upper wall. It has been more than a few years since the last time I have done this but I remember starting in a kind of shabby left facing corner and climbing maybe 30' to a ramp/ledge. From this point I believe we stayed to climbers right and ascended a really nice but short splitter crack up and into an open cave that required some "crawling" from this point it was a short scramble that led to the "summit" of this formation and I scrambled down the backside. My question is, what is the formation that I am climbing if not the actual route. The old Smoot guide seems to call this upper mass of rock "Memorial Buttress" and that is what the person who originally showed me this line described the formation as. The latest Kramer guide seems to be calling this the "upper eightmile crags" more precisely the Buzzbomb/swingline area. Which is it? Can anyone clarify this for me?

Good laughs. As a Mountie basic student in the late 90's I remember this right of passage quite well.

Cool pics man.

If you can afford a new rope why would you take the risk with a compromised one? Maybe you could make yourself a shorter rope for other purposes and ditch the contaminated sections? I personally would rather err on the side of caution when it comes to rope and sling material. Just my 2 cents.

Think Mr. Josh Lewis

Sure does.