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i second this. last 24hrs page 1 spray free is great. the rest is useless. i'm not going to wade through the crap after page 1. any help much appreciated.

beta blockers help the nerves too, imho.

maine-iac: as of 3/6 it 'did' but calling it snow was a misnomer. I would hope that after the last week or so, esp with new snow it is no longer what it was. If it was snow you could haul a sled sure, so long as it was packed (as ivan says otherwise there are some decent spots for side-hilling) But it was some serious hard-packed snow-turned ice--really felt more hazardous there than any part of climbing cooper-spur. it was just asking for a bruised tailbone, knee, or split lip. we joked about putting on the crampons for that but it sure as hell would have made it easier and faster-jokes on us.

I wouldn't place too much trust in the wind speed on that site. It says 55mph winds this morning and 60mph this afternoon, from the SSW. The average at 7k from telemetry today is about 10mph winds. That site gives estimates for 10k so I guess its possible. It says a high of 14 degrees at 10k for today. So if it is 37 right now at 7k on hood..there is a 23 degree change in the next 3k? Sorry it just seems grossly inaccurate, and that is for today's forecast--let alone trusting wind speed 5 days out..why bother. Telemetry data seems in line with what NOAA estimates. MM/DD Hour TempF RH% WindMin WindAvg WindMax Wind ------------------------------------------------ 3 15 1400__ 38___ 49___ 10___ 19 28 133 3 15 1500__ 38___ 40___ 7___ 14 21 130 3 15 1600__ 37___ 50___ 8___ 15 24 140 3 15 1700__ 37___ 47___ 9___ 15 24 132 3 15 1800__ 39___ 41___ 3___ 12 21 122 3 15 1900__ 38___ 46___ 5___ 12 19 133 3 15 2000__ 37___ 51___ 5___ 13 21 157 3 15 2100__ 37___ 54___ 7___ 12 22 160 3 15 2200__ 36___ 57___ 6___ 13 19 159 3 15 2300__ 36___ 56___ 6___ 12 20 139 3 16 0__ 37___ 60___ 6___ 13 20 133 3 16 100__ 39___ 52___ 0___ 9 17 124 3 16 200__ 39___ 50___ 0___ 5 10 134 3 16 300__ 39___ 50___ 0___ 2 8 163 3 16 400__ 38___ 53___ 0___ 1 6 184 3 16 500__ 38___ 61___ 0___ 3 11 353 3 16 600__ 37___ 66___ 0___ 5 17 283 3 16 700__ 37___ 67___ 0___ 4 12 301 3 16 800__ 39___ 63___ 0___ 8 19 283 3 16 900__ 41___ 61___ 0___ 6 16 280 3 16 1000__ 40___ 59___ 0___ 15 29 289 3 16 1100__ 37___ 68___ 8___ 18 33 291 3 16 1200__ 37___ 74___ 7___ 17 29 293 3 16 1300__ 37___ 79___ 0___ 7 19 323

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pass open? 242 is closed in the winter. I5-22-20-sisters-as far towards soap creek trailhead as you can get.

I returned a piece that I wore little, however it developed a serious defect with the velcro on the cuffs so I returned it. Patagonia gave me a refund gift-card for $168 reflecting the final retail/sale price for the jacket. I have absolutely no need for clothing of any form whatsoever at this point, even though their stuff rocks, and would rather have the money for gear. Thanks

nah its legit monkey man

summit and hogsback were basically windless from 10:30am-1:30-2 while we were up there. I was in my tshirt at the hogsback so i dont think it was any lower than 32 to be honest... i didn't see one iota of rime detaching--though there was a pretty decent wet slide that came out of a gulley a little to the right of pearly gates, other than that, no action. It was very mushy up there as the afternoon progressed. right now i think new snow is getting deposited over that stuff..

love the photos -- congratulations on the GA (great accomplishment!) FA . cheers

very, very cool. awesome to see such commitment and perseverance finally come to fruition! we were up on the spur on sat.. maybe your snowshoe tracks we saw down lower? looks like you were up on it well before we got very high on the spur. congratulations on a job well done!!!!

summitchaserCJB: perhaps layton shouldn't be here either since he lives in utah?? seriously why be such a dick to medicsandy, esp. in the newbies section? from reading other threads I can tell you medicsandy was out here last year and on Adams and really took to being up on a volcano (which you can't do in Ohio (provided for your clarification)). They are looking to come back out here again this or next summer to climb Adams and check out some other stuff (ie: going to muir). i'm going to have to 2nd the getting laid comment.

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35k for 9 months aint terrible, esp if you want to experience a rare place and really get to know it (a lifetime experience I'm sure). You'd be an expert for sure by the end. I also imagine you're not too far from a base, ie: not gone for more than a day for about 3 of those months, given it is dark for nearly 4 months a year (at mcmurdo). But I could be grossly wrong.. ..multi-day darkness expeditions during the low of winter seems pretty gruesome. Doesn't someone who works down there post on here sometimes? I've love to hear their take on it.

why both of ya'll selling? whats your up/down take on the tent? want something better/not happy with reviews/why'd you buy it in the first place. just curious--looking at 4seasoners >5.5lbs~ wide field and high prices

Hey brettinnj, I was curious what you wanted to see improved in the avy forecast out here (route by route avy conditions on the most popular climbs?). To me, the avy forecast for hood is plenty adequate. Are you wanting to use it as your final decision maker regarding avy conditions?

You started with a little dribble of piss onto NWAC: "I can't believe the poor avalanche forecasts there is for the Northwest. " then didn't really ask a question, I mean, look at your statement and with some logic you should be able to answer it yourself: "why isn't there as accurate of a forecast for a highly variable area the size of switzerland as there is for a mountain that has a road, train, trails, and snowcats to the top every day and a full time meteorological staff that has been recording weather and snow conditions since 1892" who waits until 8am for an alpine start? then you said they're both national parks and see traffic. I'm still waiting to hear what you want to make it better? so far I am hearing "earlier in the day forecasts". Possibly "route by route avy conditions" if I am reading between the lines. What would make it better? Why would those changes make it better for you? Is the avy forecast on the computer the final line of avy consideration you make? the avy forecast isnt suppose to be your in-situ decision maker.

in addition the colorado avalanche center has: "a staff of 15 avalanche professionals"

National park = U.S. Department of the Interior National Forest = U.S. Department of Agriculture Both federal, but not the same. NWAC gets funding from a variety of sources. What do you want better? Earlier in the day releases or pit profiles from hood, rainier, adams, multiple spots in the olympics, not to mention everything north of rainier? Like I said, donate some money to help them out. They have 3 full time members and a 4th for the winter to help. They forecast for an area larger than Switzerland. CO reporting to 11k seems exactly on par with NWAC reporting to 7K for the NW -- given the 'base' elevation in the NW doesn't start at 5k. The NOAA point-click forecast I have found to be based upon computer modeling and not actual telemetry on the ground (other than at the nearest reporting station). Frequently it has said it will be/is cloud at such and such point -- yet a webcam look or actually being there will yield a different observation. I doubt if there is telemetry over Muir's elevation on Rainier.. Hood it is the top of the magic mile. I think you're barking up the wrong tree being down on NWAC's contributions (or supposed lack thereof) Hell, the Wallowa avalanche center is all volunteer, I believe.

Washington is not a national park. sorry. Why not donate to NWAC if you want a better forecast. They aren't exactly swimming in cash and funding. how much faith are you putting into a website for choices you have to make on the ground anyways? NWAC does a great job of giving basic information and natural history of the snowpack to help give general ideas. None of the volcanoes out here have a road to the top (well hood, often a bootpack) nor full time meteorology offices and staff living on top year around.

Does being up on adams for a few hours really do anything for acclimatizing? Or more get one mentally and physically tested/checked out for rainier.. I always had the impression that acclimatization was a bit like metabolism.. ..generally a low gear thing (whether you have a fast, slow, or average metabolism) that takes a lot of time to change one way or another, though you can have short-term impacts/reactions from it due to a variety of factors. For instance if you hike for 180 days almost non-stop, then stop for 7 and are eating everything you want, you probably won't gain too much weight cause your metabolism is still extremely high (or should be) similar for acclimatization--?

yeah--i thought about taking cramps but my friend only had microspikes and I figured it would be crappy to have better traction than him if it was needed. Better to level the playing field so i could sense closer to how it would be for him if it got too icy/steep. yaktrax would probably have sufficed, though I've never used them so i'm not sure how much bite they have. the kite was sent to me by an outfitter from out east for free so i try to fly it at some fun places to give them some good pics/PR. based on how the wind was down lower i just assumed it would be way too windy up top for a typical diamond shaped kite. go figure not windy enough! cheers

was up there too yesterday, surprised there wasn't enough consistent wind at the top to keep the kite up. little microspikes worked fine to give some edge, fullon crampons weren't needed at all. got to take a friend who has never climbed anything out here before, so that was fun.

its south. for clarification. north of hood river = washington

oi! after someone's writeup on avy conditions on friday morning we decided to forgo this objective on the same date. none the less sounds like you had a great time and had it all to yourself, very nice. a bit jealous for sure-wish we got out there. ah well..