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lately i have found that fried chicken strips like you get at fred meyer, thriftway, gas stations..etc work really well. They don't freeze (or didn't seem to, to me, after being on hood during that cold spell in my pack for 9 hours with no higher temp than 8 degrees out), they're really tasty, im always eager to eat them even when other things don't call me. not sure if the nutrition is functional..the breading definitely gives some carbs and fat.

Kstoltz, it seems you have positive intentions, however, those alone do not make for reasoned or accurate judgment. I appreciate you taking the time to respond here and to lay out your views. I don't know how you can speculate that the 3 climbers on hood in december 2009 would have had a different outcome. There is some information and theories, but to say their lives would have been spared if they had some additional electronics in their hand is inappropriate speculation that I would rather not hear. You say you do not know about climbing as much as the people on this board, but that you do know a lot about PLBs. There is a disconnect in that statement, when you are advocating for a mandated change in climbing behavior/protocol. I am at a loss how you logically arrive at the conclusion that mandating PLB use for a minority group (as in less climbers than ATV, hiking, fishing, hunting) is preferential when statistics and hard numbers conclude that other usergroups require more S&R resources than climbers. These figures are available for the state of oregon and if you request I will consolidate them and present them here, if you would like. I cannot imagine the state of washington has dramatically different figures than oregon, as far as percentages of resources used for various S&R activities. If you want to increase your business or increase the safety of outdoor users, or some combination of this, through education, why not partner with the state or try to get a grant or matching funds for educational courses or information packs, and/or develop a method of renting them at major climbing areas for a nominal fee, WITHOUT making it mandatory. There is no way to enforce it and S&R will always go after lost people, climbers or otherwise, whether they have a PLB or not.

I'm not sure, but I assume their design would have factored that in... if not ask someone in the gear forum, not in the yard-sale area, or talk with the manufacturer--OR is great for feedback, in my experience.

interesting. Thank you for sharing! Now that I look closer in the pictures I can see indeed the cuff is different. What other differences have you noticed/features missing? does the fabric bead water well/stitching look to be on par with your store-bought laser? again, thanks for your feedback.

defeated posture from a skiers perspective. It's looks like someone wearing waders in a desert arroyo thinking they were goint to trout fish. of course the weather looks nice and those formations are beautiful -- and I'm sure you were practically the only folks out there. what year was that

that looks like such a defeated posture! awesome picture though...

i think that is the end of the discussion. a hell of an idea. can you imagine the fat-wailing you'd hear if something like that got proposed.. it would be deafening (like the feedback obese people's body's give them that they ignore).

thanks for the good words blunorthern and dane. I picked up a Laser for $200 from altrec a little bit ago, and am satisfied with it. stumbled across this today and wondered, would make sense that there would be facilities just for knocking off designs..

right, i have to doubt it is legit but the positive feedback on other products + the fact that the legit ones are made in china, one wonders. If they only had 5 positive feedback reviews and 1 negative, I'd say its a scam, but they have a good amount. i think the best test would be to compare it to one from a local vendor in the NW, as far as stitching, stretch, patterns on fabric, zipper appearance, etc. Then the second test would be under the faucet or showerhead..

mammut lasers for cheap on ebay sorry if this has been around the block on here before. Of course I'm extremely skeptical that this is the same as designer products on sale for $30 in NYC--the whole 'too good to be true' deal. Only caveat in my mind is that mammut makes their stuff in china -- and it wouldnt surprise me if someone was able to get it for dirt cheap or somehow acquire legitimate product from the production facilities. The other factor is, they have good feedback so 1) they have manufactured tons of false accounts/coordinated with other scammers to get lots of good feedback 2) the people they sell knock-offs to are too stupid to realize/notice the diff 3) a combination of 1 & 2? thoughts anyone?

requiring everyone to carry a PLB outdoors (above timberline)? sorry, maybe at all the state parks in indiana or something, but really, you think enforcement on the ground in the great outdoors of washington state is going to be even remotely possible? Not a chance.

so.. i see no mention of penalties or enforcement in this. Is that decided at a later date? electronic signaling device = mirror that takes batteries

no worries gyro. I'm on board with you on that take. For the time medicsandy is coming I'd recommend an ax (though would check for conditions in mid june), the knowledge to use it, and if not crampons, at least microspikes. If they have the time, money, and desire to take a basic mountaineering course, sure, but it is absolutely not required for the dog route on adams during the summer.

never do a glaciated peak without ice axe and crampons? it all depends on conditions but in late august or early september, in anything less than a monster snow year, during typical NW high pressure clear for days weather, you would carry crampons up south sister or st helens or adams? Yes that is all condition dependent, but under the general weather we get in late summer, when all 3 of those south-facing dog routes are entirely snow free...you would take crampons? Be it, medicsandy is going in late june - in regular snow year I would say crampons and ax. Late august..different story. This year might be melted out by late June--if snowpack so far is any indicator--hard to tell now though. medicsandy, if i may ask, what preparation did you do prior to arriving at mt adams last year for your hike up to lunch counter. What gear did you take up to lunch counter, and how did you feel about it? this may be a 'beginner' but it isn't someone who has never seen the mountain or been on it, doing 2/3rds+ of the route--that counts for something.

also depends on time of year. going in late june? or early September? I mean this is a low snow year so far - chances are if you go in late august or in mid september there might not be anything more than a patch or two of snow the entire way. Such conditions do not warrant much more gear than good hiking equipment and a good head on your shoulders. personally, having come from out east (michigan) and not having anything more than appalachian hiking experience, I would approach mt. adams with the same respect I'd approach katahdin or washington (sans lodge at the top) You've already been here once and been up most of the way so tons of your expectations are already realized. You're not coming here from Iowa for the first time looking to go up Adams as your first mountain climb ever, I think that counts for a lot. Do it in good weather, turn back if things start seeming bad, even in subtle or minor ways, unless you are confident based on firmly rooted, actual experience and practice that you can continue safely in adverse conditions.

e-mail, state your age and climbing interest/experience and tell him you've got $100--? (whatever you have). Ask if there are any chores or something you could do--hell, that you'll spend a day chopping firewood or help remove some asbestos from their garage--whatever. that is if you want them. nothing to lose. fair 'mount to gain.

Tequila Rips

green of course. like the POS hand-me-down I got in exchange for my 89' pontiac bonneville (worst trade). I think I put $3k into keeping that piece of crap running during college. worst car ever.

yes

no reason why 'snowleopard' shouldn't win. by far pulling off some of the sickest shit of any of the girls up there.

ive been looking at this sale since it went up. the boots are too big for me otherwise I would have pulled the trigger long ago. and the deal on the biners is awesome, let alone getting them for free with the boots!

good combo buy with the overboots!

www.Steepandcheap.com sizes L, XL, XXL $65.00 right now for the next 20 minutes or until sold out (11:37am PST, 1/11/09)

nah, nah, you got a really good deal.. you must have got those tools for $300 too! great deals abound! =)

some older, but not anything antique, ice tools for $300, and a lot of whining about wanting to get exactly $300, from someone local only. I don't ice climb so I am unsure, but the OP or JBo6 would probably elucidate further that asking $300 for them would be like asking $3000 for a 95 dodge neon today.