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wow. that was timely-hadn't seen anything about hood and was wondering. thanks for that. had a group tentatively set to do leutholds tonight/tomorrow morning. will be passing this info along and regurgitating our options.

what about zappos or shoebuy or something that offers free return shipping? zappos in particular -- I have bought maybe 3 different boots, in my two sizes 9/9.5 and they end up bumping the shipping to me to overnight so I get them literally the next day if I order before noon on Thursday, I'll have them friday. Then whatever doesn't fit is free return shipping. I've bought other items from zappos on account of the awesome shipping from them. similar to buying from rei due to the awesome return policy. sometimes you don't have to have the best or the cheapest to come out on top as the right choice. just my 2cents

I'd say it is not for the family as much as it is for the posters. Almost everyone has had experience on the mountains and when an accident happens it brings mortality to the fore, above other topics. People would like to contribute something. You may as well read it as "Jesus, that could have been me! It is a shame someone who I can identify with has tragically died. I can't imagine what xyz climber's friends and family must be going through, because I know mine would be in such and such a state" But we say "My regrets and condolences to the family" It is one of the societal things maybe similar to "I'm going to let you go" when you need to hang-up and "I don't mean to interrupt" as you knock on someone's office door because you need to interrupt them.

I appreciate your clarification, billcoe-that was a stand up response. I hate to harp on it but anyone here who criticized his partner for 'not doing anything' should really check themselves. Next time any of us is up there, try to figure the best way to get to the bottom of the crater without dying or doing a fullon route around the flanks and up through the breach? His partner, Army Chief Warrant Officer 4 Scott Salkovics, is a pilot and a mountaineer and has trained on rescue missions on Rainier.

where are people getting the notion that his climbing partners did nothing for him? I guess I've not seen any of that in the news -- is there some inside information I'm missing? I'm wondering what the hell you expect his partners to do? Do any of you take a rope, ice screws, pickets, and a second tool on a helens climb? I likely never will. So are his partners suppose to downclimb the crater wall with a bd raven pro or two and 'rescue' the guy? On a 70 degree slope? Someone is living in a fantasy world. Please wake me up if it is me who needs to re-evaluate the slope angle and should re-consider bringing such gear along for winter helens climbs.

I think that may have been my thread: mnteering boot advise for a noob bump--these boots are great! I ended up going with that boot and have to say have been incredibly happy with it. My feet sweat, rubber boots or sandals, so I haven't found them to be problematic in the least for summer climbs, and they kept my feet warm with some thicker than normal wool socks during that specific cold snap in december on hood. The show almost no wear either after a season of use. i'm very happy with the trend in how they are holding up.

wilderness permit same as if you enter any wilderness area--its a little self-fill out form they use for usage statistics. if you dont find one right in front of you don't bother spending a minute trying to figure out about getting one, imo. which leads into my next point...getting it at a sporting goods store? the wilderness permit? that mt hood national forest ranger district runnaround sounds about right. they are superficially friendly but utterly worthless for anything-they might as well outsource it to india. useless louses. apologies for any cool ppl who do work for hood nat. forest--ive just never talked to you on the phone or in the offices. comparatively, hood is just a "hill" (compared to rainier). sounds like a great attitude though, sucks to be anyone who died on a little hill and not a mountain fo sho. [i think its a great mountain]

maybe spenco? point of reference i went through a few pairs of insoles on a near-thru hike of the appy trail. Towards the end we went to an outfitter that had perhaps 5 brands and 15 different insoles? I tried them all on and didnt look/see any prices. I ended up paying for one that was a looked terribly generic, a brown color foam on top and leather on the bottom with some layers between. Nothing high tech at all, no fanfare or anything. That one cost $70 (i was shocked, and a bit appalled, but for me, it really felt the best) and I still use it in my backpacking boots 2 years and 800 miles later.

found a lot of postholing down low last sunday at timberline lodge.. but stuff could change between now and the start of march. You could use flotation of your liking and go just the same.

let people? hood has nothing of the restrictions that rainier has. you can solo all the live long day on mt hood as far as 'they' is concerned. no fees no climbing rangers etc

i've wondered about using heat shrink tubing on tools? has anyone done this? pros/cons? found some stuff like this: Neoprene heat shrink tubing and a clear abrasion resistant version: http://cableorganizer.com/heat-shrink/heat-shrink-PVDF.htm

majormajor, i might be up for something too. dependent on weather more than anything, though i asked a few friends about doing some non-climbing stuff and am waiting to hear back still.

Left my Outdoor Research Expedition Crocodile Gaiters at a trailhead (doh!) and need to replace them. Size small -- used is fine so long as functional not ripped up/broken.. thanks

yeah, add to it, this guy who lives at government camp and trains around mt. hood. Take a look through more of his pictures. I sent a link to my cousin in chicago and he said "not the type of guy you want to startle."

is that a person getting shot and the blood spray turning into butterflies?

john rattie: first law of the jungle: when you openly put something out there in a sincere/open way that leaves one open to criticism, scorn, or or ridicule - people will be dicks, especially if they can be so at a distance. dont worry about it. not worth your time. I'm sure the tattoo guy is a fine individual. Almost anyone here talking shit here wouldn't say hoot to his face, plain and simple.

can i ask the picture for the westcomb flex is the same one as zeroforhire had on his list of gear for sale. same jacket?

nice. my pops was in town from out east visiting for the weekend at the tail end of a business trip to cali. i took him up to t-line on Sunday afternoon/evening for the first time and some snowshoeing and brought along a pair of binocs so he could check out the upper mountain. Saw your beautiful tracks coming out of the pearly gates chutes!

should be able to display it at selected vendors for at least 50% off BD ice climbing gear.

I use the latok alpine and love it myself. Works great. After 1 season there is a spot or two on the shoulders that look a little thinner from the inside. Otherwise it seems quite durable. How long you been using yours rokizgud?

I ordered the hammer yesterday--figured they'd sell fast. Also as a heads up, you can get 10% cashback if you shop for them through bing. Go to bing shopping then click the link to stores>EMS...setup a bing account. Its 'free' money as far as I'm concerned. I doltishly forgot to go through bing when ordering the hammer and when I tried to re-order it later that evening and cancel the first order, they were already sold out. Right now I've got $7.65 or something coming back from an ice screw I bought for a friend back in December.

thanks for the link. anyone have any two cents on comparing the aztar to the grivel matrix light hammer? Looking for an alpine tool, not planning on any straight-up ice climbing with it. Thoughts? sage Dane? hehe

dangerous? shopping bags and water can be dangerous too.. did you look at any of the short videos on the zeroloft website? I guess if it doesn't breathe worth a damn in a jacket or pants it could be dangerous, but, you'd be aware of that before setting off to conquer olympus mons, right? The stuff has some obvious insulating properties that are indeed pretty impressive at least in the laboratory. Now ultimately it may not work on getting them into every, or even many forms of outdoor gear. Does the idea sound cool at all to you? I can think of a fair amount of applications where the insulation would be wonderful vapor permeable or not (sleeping pad). I'd love to see how small it could roll down/durability/longevity/etc.

holy hell, if one is to believe it, that is some impressive stuff! for some more info without as much of the stupid flash webpage barely readable impossible to navigate hpye: http://www.zeroloft.com/ The everest trip will test it pretty well, I imagine

can this fucking thread get moved to fucking spray already??