Plaidman

I am with you on all that.

What is my score? You have me mussing about a granite Gorge now. You bastard!

I got up to Leavenworth this summer and played in Icicle and Tumwater. Got to do the Saber on Castle Rock. Now that's what I'm talking about. Sick Lumpy Ridge-esk GRANITE!

I'm pretty sure you meant sandstone... No I meant granite! Sandstone sucks. I know you were just giving me shit.

I have gotten very good at assessing rock driving at 70 miles an hour. It's a lot harder on the Oregon side when traveling east if you are the driver. Similar problem when driving west on on the Washington side. It's harder to drive 70 miles on that side too. If the Gorge was only granite.

Whaw haaa haaa. That was good. Right in the kissser!

I was in Yosemite on a climb this last fall and I was really letting it fly. Every other work was f this f that. In a good way ya know. I was really loud and we were sharing a belay with another party and this really fabulous looking Aussie girl turns to me and says "I have never heard anyone with a more foul mouth than you". Now granted I was really excited, but it was way over the top for sure. Coming from an Aussie I thought crap I must be WAAAAAAAAy over top. I was embarrassed more because she was really hot than anything else. I saw her later in Camp 4 and apologized she just said "I wasn't offended. I was just saying". I was still embarrassed. My wife just throws rocks at me when I get like that in front of strangers.

Are these relatively current pictures?

Don't know for sure.

I'll try to find it. It is in the 5th edition. I looked in the 7th edition and it is not there. I found it in the 5th edition

I'll try to find it. It is in the 5th edition. I looked in the 7th edition and it is not there.

From Super Topo Thread: Have you ever started a climbing rumor on accident? By deuce4: My favorite was how I described in the Big Wall Tech Manual about how to "X-em, Rock-em, Paste-em, and Sniff-em" when placing heads. The "Sniff-em" part was a joke --"if it stinks, get off it!" Then the Mountaineers in Seattle completely plagiarized my work in the 5th Edition of Mountaineering, Freedom of the Hills. They took the "Sniff-em" part literally, and described in detail how a bad copperhead would emit some sort of special odor. I wrote to the Mountaineers, one, to complain about the unacknowledged and blatant rip-off of my written work (about 20 pages of Freedom of the Hills was my work, paraphrased), and two, to point out to them their ridiculous error. I never heard back from them. For years afterward, I heard climbers talking about the special odor of a bad copperhead! Even by some experienced wall climbers who had actually placed a head (not like the plagiarizers at the Mountaineers, who had obviously just rewritten my work without any real knowledge of aid climbing).

Post up. We want to know how that it done.

Thanks Dude!!

Google is awesome. You should try it some time.: Karst topography is a landscape shaped by the dissolution of a layer or layers of soluble bedrock, usually carbonate rock such as limestone or dolomite.[1] Due to subterranean drainage, there may be very limited surface water, even to the absence of all rivers and lakes. Many karst regions display distinctive surface features, with sinkholes or dolines being the most common. However, distinctive karst surface features may be completely absent where the soluble rock is mantled, such as by glacial debris, or confined by a superimposed non-soluble rock strata. Some karst regions include thousands of caves, even though evidence of caves that are big enough for human exploration is not a required characteristic of karst. Various karst landforms have been found on all continents except Antarctica.

Here is the weather forecast for the next few days. NOAA pinpoint forecast

Right on Dude. Nice job getting through the Rat Hole at the end. My trip report is at: OregonLive.com - Plaidman's Trip Report I love caving!

I was thinking the same thing. It seems like the most logical place to go. The most ice for your money. The Gorge down here near Portland had some stuff starting to form as of yesterday. It is probably all gone now. I bet it is much colder up near Banks Lake.

I was a happy little guy. Still am.

I went to Bagby Hot Springs with my kids. Fun in the rain.

I luv them caves. Just posted to my blog. Deadhorse Cave Blog Post

Here are the nose hairs.

Thanks Steve for a great time.

I'll get right on that!

You got that right. It is one big mutha.