denalidave

Well said...

I like the birds too, but have had plenty of good days climbing and not notice them at all. They can have big ledge during the nesting season, but if the original closure plan allowed for some lower pitches on the east & se side to remain open, that option should be looked at again. As I understand it, the old guard poo-pooied the idea of any closure and turned down the option of the first 2 pitches of the corner & YW with an all or nothing attitude. If the bird experts concluded it was ok back then, no reason it can't be ok now. The BRSP saying they don't have the man power to monitor the routes is total BS, since we climbers pay taxes and it is our park too. Sure, if the climbers hinder the birds, fine, close it. I've offered to assist JH, not just this year but also last year. So far, he does not seem to need any help, although he keeps asking who is going to "step-up". I'm stepping up and over JH if that's what is needed to have our collective voices heard. We CAN change the status if we are willing to do the work and be heard.

Better ask Dawg.

Good advice Bill, but I don't see a road trip in my near future. Wish it were otherwise...

No, they don't - I'm just business to them, but I am the only member of the flea circus that actually communicates with them on any regular basis and they work with that as it's the only steady interaction they have with any climbers. josph, you have a way with words but not with people.... No shit - that's why it would be great if some of the folks who are would quit whining and step up... Joe, I'm offering to "step-up" just not sure what is needed.

NICE. But why would anyone be interested in climbing pics on a climbing forum?

yeah...trash is the site bunghole! That's DADDY trashie...

So what's all being "revived" on the n side? I know Shane was out there a lot last year but I though he moved away? Seems like getting rid of the oak and all the major loose stuff is all that prevents some good route options over there.

Sthuper. sickie I felt more like a beached whale, flopping vertically up it the other day.

That's what I was just thinking. Why don't the OP, trasshie & boner all pray to Jesus for better climbing for a month or three and see what happens. Seriously, don't knock if you aint tried it...

I tried that and an unleashed dog ate my chickens, seriously. Although in my case, the chickens took it upon themselves to wander out of the yard onto the trails.

just so we're clear, how many times this past season ( ) did you solo ALL of young warriors? I know i roped up with you for at least one climb on it... How many time did he EVER solo ALL the pitches, bitzez?

I like the new bolts. The one below the butt-hole was beefy, but rusty. I would not want to fall there, even with the new bolts. Thanks for the work Joseph & Jeff.

Maybe it was a botched ransom kidnapping... "Ve have ze pin. U follow z instructions carefully and u will get z pin back. However, don't try anyzing stupeed, like contacting z authoreteez. You do, and ze pin dies!!! A slow, agonizing death, vith loats of chalk! Stupeed Imperialist Baconion peegs."

Yes sir, Daddio.

You want pano...

Only God can prove itself to you.

One could say that about believers too. Yes, but that does not make your statement "there is no god" any truer. (Que trashie's all-knowing wisdom for the next 50 pages of drivel.) Dood, WTF did I ever do to you to put so much sand in your coochie? Jesus.... Well, since you ask, mr. know it all. It was probably a gradual process of reading 3 years of your supreme knowledge on any given topic here. I love your pics, and we all know how smart you are, but you sure know how to keep spray'n and spray'n. I presume this is so you can eventually prove you are right. I would like to think you are not as arrogant in person, but the other sprayers here have left that idea in question too. Maybe I've got the wrong impression of you over the years... I'm sure you are extremely talented, smart and artistic, but from my point of view, you come across like the guy with a monster truck on this here super highway. Gotta make sure everyone knows how big your rig is... metaphorically speaking. I've read many of your beat-down posts to anyone that would question your auth-or-et-i. Like I said last time, I just like picking on the bully once in a while. (Not that you seem to bully me)... Sorry for dragging you into this thread but figured you'd hi-jack it soon enough anyway. Cheers. Now, back on topic, what the hell were talking about anyway.

But you just said god does not exists...

That is a good starting point.

Now natural disasters are proof there is no god? Come on, you got to do better than that.

One could say that about believers too. Yes, but that does not make your statement "there is no god" any truer. (Que trashie's all-knowing wisdom for the next 50 pages of drivel.)

Again, in order to be certain there is no god, you must yourself be all knowing of everything in the universe, thus making you god and contradicting yourself. Which is it?

And why not?