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At least now I now what to get for that certain someone who is so hard to shop for at Christmas time. I wonder if they do lay-away plans?

You must be out climbing to much Bill, this is a re-post, sheesh.

Don't forget to catch 3 days of great music, dancing and debauchery at the Talkeetna Bluegrass Festival the first week of August. Although I have not been to one in a decade, I'm sure it promises to be a good time. Here is a great chance to see all the wiley character come out of the woodwork in Alaska. Talkeetna Bluegrass Festival Linky What a great little town!

You've got a great eye for pics, very nice!

:lmao:Funny, maka me waff

we want to see couloir's avatar's, but not yours Amen!

well....that's cool and all, if your into cocks... Hugh is. Since I don't have the inclination to show him mine, I post a diagram for him. It gets his keyboard sticky. Actually, I can't view avatars anymore because I will get busted for Hugh's Pron at work. So I posted the penis in prostate, I mean protest. Do you like it? Hook up with Hugh. Bug, please put it (avitar) away. Can't you borrow one from Couliour?

A little duct tape and she's as good as new.

I've never used the BD's but it seems like they have a better and more user friendly locking mechanism. I have trouble trying to unscrew or tighten the Leki's when it is very cold out. What's the verdict on the BD locking system?

Probably had the phone in his coat so the batteries would not freeze up. Sounds like he had quite a few lucky breaks.

I've heard it said before that sometimes you have to choose between being a parent or the child's friend. Their are times when you can't be both. I also have a hard time with considering a structured spanking a beating. I do see the irony of it... Don't hit your sister or I'm gonna hit you. Again, it is a last resort and rarely does a situation escalate to that. I applaud parents that can bring a healthy, well behaved child up without using corporal punishment but I'm not convinced myself that it does not have it's place. Just the same as I am not one to go out and inflict violence on another adult. However, if someone presents a threat to me or my family, I will certainly do what I have to do to protect us. Does that make me a violent person? I don't think that analogy is really good since we are talking about innocent kids in this thread but I say it just to say that there are often grey areas in life. Raising kids is a challenge in whatever style you do it. Some kids are more strong willed than others but they still need boundaries and will know you love them when boundaries are enforced. I don't like the counting either but my wife still uses it and never uses it to do a spanking. What have you got against time outs? I feel they don't do enough to "punish" the child but that depends on the child/situation too.

Where do you find this crap Bill?

I've had the same pair for over a decade and they are still fine. My buddy even accidentally dropped them down a crevasse that was only about a foot wide and maybe 20 ft deep. It was about 30 below zero and getting colder as the sun was setting. My 2 climbing partners kept telling me to just leave them down there but I was not leaving without em. Hell, I'd just bought them (used)for that trip and paid a whopping $25 for the pair. It took us about 45 minutes to McGuiver them out using our rope and carabiners/pulleys to lasso the basket and pull them out. Maybe it is a case of they don't make em like they used to... I was thinking about getting a new pair next season but will go with the BD ones now.

Yeah, were working on the restaurant behavior. They are pretty good except they like to play this game where one of them is a dog or a cat. So we'll be sitting in the restaurant or whatever public place when one of them yells, "I'm the doggie, I'm gonna sniff your bottom" to the other one. Followed by excessive loud laughing and acting like toddlers. We've almost got that one nipped in the bud butt though. A few more severe beatings in public otta fix em. I know what you are saying about the different theories of discipline causing a problem with Mom. When my wife was pregnant the first time, she insisted that we never spank either child and I reluctantly agreed to try it that way. Once the terrible two's hit (my kids were "advanced" and it only took about 16 months), my wife ended up being the first one to ever spank our kid. Not that it happens very often but it is one of the last things to do when they are really testing those boundaries. Always done with fair warning that if you continue_______, you will get a spanking, and I don't want to give you a spanking...

I consider myself extremely moderate, in a liberally conservative type way.

So do you believe in any sort of discipline? Counting does work so long as the counter consistently follows through with whatever threat is laid out before the count starts. My wife used to be a big fan of counting but never getting past 2 and then wonder why the kids would not obey her. However, as soon as she would ask them if they wanted Daddy to get involved, they straightened up right away. Not because I was going to hurt them, but because I have been much more consistent in applying discipline. Mom's, in general, tend to be the softies but I've seen it the other way around too. At least now, when she counts, she does follow through with whatever consequence that was originally promised if the behavior did not change. I'm not a big fan of the counting either though, but it does work, if properly applied.

Very much true. Matter of fact we try our best to not let him cry for anything. We don’t use the work “no” with him either. Seems to be working. He does not throw tantrums…..at all! Basically we try our hardest to all be meeting his needs. I certainly understand the concept that kids hear the word no to much and I am just as guilty as the next parent of using it way to much myself. However, how can you go through life without some form of the word no... Daddy, can I play with this loaded gun? I wanna put my hand in hand in that fire... Whether you use the actual word, no, or some other form of it, it is essential to communicate. So if I just give my kid whatever she wants when she cries, what am I teaching that child? Oh, I get my way when I cry hard enough. (Not saying that is what you do though Kev.) There are plenty of times when consoling a crying child is the right thing to do, ie - fall down w/an ouwie or any other various things but that is much different than coddling a child just because they are crying and rewarding a child for crying. All the "experts" will agree, and I agree too with first hand experience, that children need firm boundaries and will actually appreciate you more as a parent when you set such boundaries and stick with them. When we let our children do whatever, whenever, it demonstrates to the child that the parents really don't care enough to to do what is best for the child. I'm not saying that kids understand this on a conscious level but I really have seen it work, not only in my situation but with other parents/kids too. Who are the experts you are referring too? I try my hardest to not use the word no with my child. That is not to say I don’t communicate no to him….just like you referenced above. “Miles if you touch the fire you will get burned”…..or for some parents “no” don’t touch that! I certainly don’t let my son do whatever whenever, he has serious structure to his day. He wakes up at the same time every day. Takes a nap same time and bed at the same time. I do give him a WIDE birth when out and about and at the house.……I just follow him around and let him explore and make sure he does not hurt himself. I try my hardest to talk to him before I pick him up or transition him to something else. Even as a baby I would tell him I was going to pick him up to go change his diapers before I touched him…… I think a lot of tantrum behaviors have formed in kids because of the parental “boundaries” and “agendas” parents place on there children. I believe (to comment on something you said a while ago today) you train a pet and guide your child. Call it training or guiding but the principle is the same. My point is to be consistent with whatever form of child rearing. I see to many parents just let their kids walk all over them and all the parents do is keep threatening some sort of penalty/punishment that is never followed through. I think the child ends up feeling less loved by those type of actions than a parent that cares enough to keep a child "in-line". It is never easy but we all do the best we can with the skills we have learned and inherited. By the way, when I say punishment, I don't automatically mean beating a child, although there are rare occasions when I gentle spanking is in order. That said, I can count on one hand the number of time either of my kids actually got a spanking in the past several years.

Very much true. Matter of fact we try our best to not let him cry for anything. We don’t use the work “no” with him either. Seems to be working. He does not throw tantrums…..at all! Basically we try our hardest to all be meeting his needs. I certainly understand the concept that kids hear the word no to much and I am just as guilty as the next parent of using it way to much myself. However, how can you go through life without some form of the word no... Daddy, can I play with this loaded gun? I wanna put my hand in hand in that fire... Whether you use the actual word, no, or some other form of it, it is essential to communicate. So if I just give my kid whatever she wants when she cries, what am I teaching that child? Oh, I get my way when I cry hard enough. (Not saying that is what you do though Kev.) There are plenty of times when consoling a crying child is the right thing to do, ie - fall down w/an ouwie or any other various things but that is much different than coddling a child just because they are crying and rewarding a child for crying. All the "experts" will agree, and I agree too with first hand experience, that children need firm boundaries and will actually appreciate you more as a parent when you set such boundaries and stick with them. When we let our children do whatever, whenever, it demonstrates to the child that the parents really don't care enough to to do what is best for the child. I'm not saying that kids understand this on a conscious level but I really have seen it work, not only in my situation but with other parents/kids too.

yeah, I took 2 huge boxes of diapers back to costco and had a shit-eat'n grin as they gave me $80 or whatever it was. I do know that for us, the second child is much easier to deal with in many ways. I fully credit that to the better parenting habits of both myself and my wife. I'm sure they both have plenty of unique differences about personality and behaviors but coddling and giving into a kids every demand (like my wife tended to do with our 1st child) is not helping the child in the long run. Sure, kids need plenty of love, reassurance and support but they also need to learn to entertain and calm themselves down too (IMHO).

Our first one took much longer than the second to get to sleep all night. It is best for everyone if you just let em scream it out for a day or two when they are young so they learn to sleep alone and be more independent. Once you let them cry it out, it will only take a day or three and they will sleep all night long, for the most part anyway. Even now, putting our oldest (almost 5) to bed is a much more complicated theatrical procedure but the youngest (just turned 3) is so easy. She is half asleep before I even tuck her in, all because we trained her early by letting her go to sleep on her own. Good luck with the next one... We just gradumanatd out of diapers a few months ago - WOW! When we decided to have kids, nobody ever told me that potty training was going to be the most exciting thing in our future. Monumental step of progress for our clan. Now what?

And if she really looked only half that good in a bikini she may have won the primary...

From this we may gather that you aren't just some "punk kid with a drill". So what are ya? Some old fart with a drill? Does that make you better? No matter how old you are, you should consider top roping, or if you must drill, get it done on the lead. That's how you distinguish yourself from just another "punk kid with a drill". So is this the first angry "know it all" post thing original dude was talkin about? Coming up: the inevitable clowns, dwarfs....then later .....Nazis......in 3.......2.........1........... Where's RD when you need him?

Sure glad I didn't drop $600 for one about a year ago that is now essentially obsolete. I like my T-Mobile and don't want to switch so I'm not gonna jump on the bandwagon.

IMO, belaying with 2 ropes does take some getting used to but is worth it in many cases, mostly for longer wandering multi-pitch routes. Not only for the extra rope security but also to reduce rope drag on wandering routes.