ericb

because evolution is taught in science classes, and ID is not science. why does evolution need to be taught in a classroom?

So tell me this....why is it that atheists/agnostics are so vehemently opposed to the mentioning of intelligent design alongside evolution in a classroom setting?

Your question is so easy, it's almost rhetorical. The question is, if we watched him get buried up to his chin in an avalanche, without anybody else around (except the reader of course) in subzero temperatures, in a very remote area, with 15 minutes of daylight left, would we dig him out? Now that's a legitimate question. To make it trickier, lets assume you have knowledge only of his character and not the fact that he has enough banked calories and natural insulation to keep him warm for several days.

I see my suspicions that it will evolve into an anti-bolt tirade soon are coming to fruition with the arrival of Raindawg. Office pool anyone, or will the good fight continue unabated as is? I feel dirty and think I lost 15 IQ points after posting here. Hmmmm I had a related thought when Lizard Brain jumped in an told us to shut up. Why in the world would we spend 60 ppg. talking about something as meaningless as religion when there's still that bolt on South Early Winters Spire - protecting a 5.0 move no less....now that would be worth all this hot air.

Actually, it is for Christ's sake that some of continue to argue...ironically

That just doesn't make any sense. If there is a Satan then there is by implication, a God. Why would you chose to burn in hellfire and damnation for all of eeternity? Oh, sorry. Wait a minute. It's Kevbone..... Never mind. Bug....please don't try and convert Kevbone. It would kind of ruin heaven as I understand it, and I want something to look forward to.

Heard it on NOVA???....Wow...that's weak...even for you

TTK....how is it that evolution is the most successfully tested theory in all of science? Where did you get that gem?

why is this any different than the attempt to infuse non-christian values by interest groups - is the agenda of these groups less "narrow"

Bwaaaaa-haa-haa! No one is trying to force you back into the closet KKK, least of all the ACLU. We fully support your agenda. you're public display of religion is just as offensive to me as the pic of the flying spaghetti monster/sistine chapel is to you. think about it. There's a difference here Minx...a big one.....our public display of religion is not done to cause offense....some people choose to be offended by it. The spaghetti monster, smoking jesus, stories of using bible pages as TP etc., is to offend christians, and to the extent that it's done to amuse fellow atheists, it's only amusing because it offends christian....it's a question of motives.

well said So let me get this straight....Christians are the judgemental and intolerant ones???

what...no mailbox peak....WTF???

and planned parenthood....so what's your point? http://www.gatesfoundation.org/UnitedStates/PacificNorthwest/CommunityGrants/Grants/Grant-42715.htm

that's an ironic statement coming from a mountie

Feck...how much is a one-ride ticket at Whistler +/-?

Matt - I've been very involved with one church in Spokane, one in Dallas, and four in Seattle, and not once has there been any directive from the pulpit or church leadership, implied or otherwise on how to vote or what the "Christian" party is.

My theory is that what drives this reaction to Christianity is the perceived mental posture of Christians. I think reality is that evangelism (overt or covert) for most christians who do it is driven by compassion. Unfortunately the posture of some/many of the more vocal evangelicals has an perceived tone of either superiority (I'm enlightened and you are not), or pity (poor little sinner - if you only knew what was going to happen to you). I'm no psychologist, but as guy, I'd far rather be hated than looked down on or pitied. Perhaps that's why many folks out there seem far more tolerant of Muslim fundamentalism than they are of Christian fundamentalism.

Bug - I don't see a connection between the disparate thoughts here and the current state of the Native American peoples. Was the genocide committed by Christian Missionaries? How much of the land taken from the tribes is being used to grow corn for ethanol, wind-farms, etc. Are the Democrats who are pushing for alternative fuel sources really to blame rather than Christians?

Bug - I'm not familiar with how the historical abuses of the Native American Tribes have been attributed specifically to Christian activities vs. US Government activities....can you please clarify what you are referring to here?

JH - using your logic, buddhism and shintoism are inherently violent religions...I mean, look at what the Japanese did to us at Pearl Harbor.....

Wouldn't it be ironic if the song was "I've got a river of life flowin out of me....."

Nepal - Ama Dablam

Quite true. Again, quite true. Insurance (homeowner's/renter's/personal articles) is practically worthless without documentation. Just found out my homeowners deductible is $1,000

the new BD have flicklok at all levels. between this and REI CF, the REI CF is 4.5 oz lighter, but the BD collapses down further, an issue if you are climbing with them on your pack. As always, pros and cons

did you feel or hear a pop?