Couloir

Can't you use one for both?

Handsome tushy.

I wonder if these guys ended up going up the North Face Couloir instead of the easier NW Ridge. Without snow that would be a sketchy section for sure.

Suncupped and crevassed.

And likely a bit tough.

I'm commited to doing this...one of these days. But the bar has definitely been raised by these guys. A five-peak marathon Three Bend endurance athletes climb the Three Sisters, Broken Top and Bachelor in 15 hours, 30 minutes By Mark Morical / The Bulletin Published: September 07. 2007 5:00AM PST Three endurance athletes from Central Oregon got together one day last month to run about 37 miles. An impressive feat — but much more so considering the terrain they covered across those 37 miles. To get an idea of their route, find a viewpoint in Bend and look west toward the mountain-filled horizon. Mitch Thompson, Max King and Dave Clark, all of Bend, ran up and down North Sister, Middle Sister, South Sister, Broken Top and Mount Bachelor — all in in 15 hours and 30 minutes. By their calculations, they gained and lost about 18,000 feet of elevation, using no climbing gear, and taking only short breaks to purify water. The three athletes used their superb fitness and climbing skills to break the only known record of the nonsupported, continuous five-peak hike by more than 10 hours. Pat Creedican of Bend accomplished the feat in 26:55 in 2001. King, 27, is an accomplished distance runner; Clark, 47, is the cross-country and distance track coach at Bend’s Summit High School; and Thompson, 38, is an experienced climber with intricate knowledge of backcountry trails and climbs. The trio gathered before sunrise on Aug. 22 at the Pole Creek Trailhead near Sisters, where they began their epic trek at 5:30 a.m. They were on top of Mount Bachelor by 8 p.m. to watch the sunset. In an interview last week to discuss their journey, all three climbers agreed that the most difficult — and frightening — parts of the adventure were the climbs up 10,085-foot North Sister and the north side of 10,358-foot South Sister. (South Sister is a relatively easy climb up the south side, but extremely precipitous up the north side.) “I just had an extraordinary amount of fear on the north side of South Sister, much more than I anticipated,” Clark recalled. “There were many places where I felt like if I fell, I would die. It’s not a happy feeling. And I COULD NOT have done it, if I wasn’t with these guys.” Typically, on North Sister and Broken Top, climbers use ropes and harnesses to ascend the steep, technical portions of the climbs. Because they were going for the fastest time possible, Clark, King and Thompson did not bring any such gear, making for some adrenaline-powered ascents. “Most people do (need climbing gear),” King said. “I wouldn’t take anybody else up there, unless they were real comfortable with their climbing abilities. Broken Top is a pretty vertical climb, North is a vertical climb; you can’t fall — or you’re gone.” Said Thompson: “If I went up there with somebody inexperienced, I would have ropes and a harness. If you fall … it’s certainly not like the (more forgiving) climbers’ trail on South Sister.” Thompson, Clark and King all had climbed each of the five peaks before. And they all knew each other as members of the vibrant outdoor adventure community in Central Oregon. Thompson approached Clark and King with the idea to make the five-peak run, and just two days later they were making tracks in the Central Oregon Cascades. To travel light and fast, they took with them on their adventure only the bare minimum: small packs with food (energy bars, gels, sandwiches), water, a first-aid kit, and a small water purifier so they could drink water from streams and lakes. Clark, King and Thompson started with the ascent of North Sister, by far the most technically challenging of the five peaks, according to Clark. “You have to go through the ‘Bowling Alley,’” Clark said. “On the very top part of North (Sister), you’re squeezed into this little chute, and if anything falls, it’s coming at you. We wore bike helmets.” From the top of North Sister, it took the three just about one hour to reach the summit of 10,047-foot Middle Sister. Descending Middle Sister was not easy, Thompson recalled. “It’s nasty,” he said. “Just a massive field of baby-head rocks … very precarious footing. You could twist an ankle or knee really easily.” The route from Middle Sister to South Sister was long and arduous, the runners said. They made their way up the treacherous north side of South Sister in clouds that shrouded the top of the mountain. But they enjoyed clear weather the rest of the way. Navigation was easy for the three climbers during their trek. They used a topographical map and relied on their knowledge of the area. “It’s easy when you can see the next mountain,” King said. “We didn’t even use the map, really, because we knew where we were going. You pick your own route a lot of the time.” They continued on, up and down 9,175-foot Broken Top, and finally, up and down 9,065-foot Bachelor, by far the easiest of the five peaks to ascend and descend. Once they reached the bottom of Bachelor, finally finished, King and Thompson were tired but otherwise OK. Clark, however, was severely dehydrated. “Physically, going up Bachelor was the hardest part for me,” Clark recalled. “I was just dehydrated. My muscles were cramping, and it was hard. Sometimes, it just hits you.” King had little time to recover from the five-peak climb: Just two days later, he was running in the Hood to Coast Relay, helping Team XO finish fifth overall in the team relay race from Mount Hood to Seaside. King said his average mile time in the event was 5 minutes, 10 seconds. “All my friends on my Hood to Coast team thought I was nuts,” King said. King, Clark, and Thompson said they never doubted they could accomplish the five-peak feat. “It was just a matter of how fast are we going to do it,” Thompson said. Thompson is wary of other endurance athletes who may try to beat the 15:30 mark up the Three Sisters, Broken Top and Bachelor. “You need to be in great shape, you need to have some climbing skills, and you need to know what you’re doing and where you’re going,” Thompson advised. “And there is a small group of people in this town, some of these XC Oregon (elite cross-country ski team) guys, who would be guys that would be eyeing this up and try to beat our time.”

That's a bunch of bull.

It's true. You really do learn something everyday here at CC.com!

It's been awhile since my chemistry days, but aren't most chemicals stored in glass containers? I'm familiar with certain gases, chemicals, surfactants and various slurries used in semiconductor chip manufacturing and either 316L stainless (sometimes electropolished), hastelloy or Teflon (PFA, PTFE) is used to contain, transport and deliver them. I've never seen Nalgene used in any capacity outside of bottles used for recreational purposes.

Uhhhhhmmm.............yeah.

Anyone ever use one of these? I got one as a gift and it looks like it would be a worthwhile alternative to a Nalgene bottle. I guess for the purists it makes sense, but does it make sense for everyone else? I might buy the 40oz to carry in my tequila.

I was thinking hookers and blow.

Wow, that's A LOT of backtracking considering Cloud Cap was only about 2 miles from where you camped. If you made it that far, I would have ignored the parents and kept moving. How old is your friend, 12?

I'm spamming the shit out of everyone I know about this. I'll be there.

I'm trying to think of a legal way of dealing with this guy. What can his neighbors do to make his life miserable without getting thrown in jail themselves?

This guy is so bold, I'm almost wondering if he is just a media hound like the article suggests. Almost (but not quite) like that John Mark Karr that was accused of the Jon Benet killing. Messed-up nonetheless.

I got the answer I needed. I wasn't relying too heavily on this venue. Just throwing it out there.

and "girl-lovers" evidently too: Oregonian --------------------------------------------------- Pedophile wants to settle in Portland Posted by The Oregonian September 06, 2007 05:50AM Categories: Top Stories Self-described pedophile Jack McClellan, who fled Washington and California amid public outrage over his habit of photographing young girls, said Wednesday that he has moved to Portland and plans to stay. The 45-year-old McClellan has drawn national attention in recent months from media and concerned parents over a now-defunct Web site that featured photos he took of young girls in public places. McClellan admits he is sexually attracted to young girls, though he said Wednesday he has not and will not do anything illegal. He said he won't take pictures of children anymore because he now "sees it from the parents' side." McClellan publicly announced his move to Portland via a Web site and in multiple media interviews. He said he wants to pre-emptively blunt efforts to "out" him by those who track his movements, adding that he feels media attention will help protect him from vigilantes and police harassment. He chose Portland for its "reputation as a Northwest haven for offbeat people." But McClellan's presence in the state, even in one that considers itself a proponent of free speech and individual rights, will likely stir the same parental concern or outrage that sparked citizens to drive him out of Oregon's two neighboring states. McClellan might not have abused a child, said Ron Tebo, a concerned parent who maintains an "anti-Jack" Web site at www.jackmcclellan.com. But parents still need to be vigilant. "You take an alcoholic and put him or her in a liquor store," he said. "You say you can go in but don't touch. Jack should basically remove himself from children because he's the alcoholic." Portland Police spokesman Sgt. Brian Schmautz said the police were made aware of McClellan's move to Portland by media. Because he is not a convicted sex offender, he does not need to register with authorities, Schmautz said. McClellan, who has lived with his parents in Washington most of his life, said he had a normal childhood. He graduated from community college, traveled the United States and parts of Europe for several years before settling with his parents and becoming fascinated with the Internet. "I'm the kind of person who really gets obsessed with things," he said. Pictures of girls Several years ago, McClellan started a Web site detailing the best places to find prostitutes in Seattle and Vancouver, B.C. In 2005, McClellan began to become attracted to young girls, and he changed his site to posting pictures of girls he saw in public places. Being attracted to young girls "just started making more sense to me," he said. McClellan was injected into the spotlight after he was identified as the creator of www.stegl.org, which stands for "Seattle-Tacoma-Everett Girl Love". He didn't want the attention, he said, but the site, which discussed places where pedophiles could go to watch young girls, sparked concern and anger among parents. One school sought a no-trespassing order against him, while local authorities said they monitored his activities. He left Washington in May and headed to California and restarted his Web site. But the company hosting it soon took it down. The controversy followed him, as parents recognized him from anti-pedophile organizations, and he soon faced a civil lawsuit seeking to block him from approaching anyone younger than 18. He was arrested for violating the restraining order, although those charges were dropped. He then headed to Oregon. "There's really no place left for me to go," he said. McClellan chose Portland apparently after ruling out southern Oregon because of the heat, he said in his announcement on a message board for pedophiles. He also stopped in Gold Beach where, he said, "the cops started hassling me." Gold Beach Police Chief Russ Merkley said his department was notified McClellan was in town, but that he doesn't know of any officers seeing or talking with him. He has already visited the Oregon State Fair and said there are several more "(girl-lover) events coming up this weekend that look promising." Attention seeker? McClellan's behavior and his willingness to go public have prompted some to question whether he is a pedophile or hungry for attention - or both. "I think he's a media hound," said Tebo. But McClellan said he just wants to live in peace. "I am determined to obey the law," he said, brushing strands of hair away from his eyes. McClellan lives off Social Security checks because he suffers from depression, paranoia and anxiety disorders. "When I started getting known by these anti-pedophile groups, they started broadcasting all this personal stuff about me, there was really no turning back. I was completely outed. I basically had to make a decision, was I going to stand my ground or was I going to crawl back under a rock?" Helen Jung: 503-294-7621; helenjung@news.oregonian.com Ryan Knutson: ryanknutson@news.oregonian.com

I have owned many cars in my life, and have always either paid cash for them or had them paid off before I sold them. Well, I'm getting rid of my current car sooner than I expected and I'm wondering how you handle the transaction when you need to pay off the bank in order to get the title. Do you get payment from the buyer, deposit it, pay off the car and request the title? What sort of agreement, other than a simple "sold as is" agreement do you have? How are they protected? How am I? Any of you guys turn cars enough to know how this works? Thanks!

Yep. And has a friend named Peter Way that likes to follow him around.

I went ahead and shelled it out. Nice work John!

I wear a 10 and these are a little big for me, like almost 1/2 to 1 size too big. I compensate with thicker socks and they're good, but then they're a bit too warm unless it's really cold out.

Pee Chees