lancegranite

Nader?

Snorkeling and drinking beer all day makes me tired! The wind kicked up this afternoon and got sand in the steaks...life is tough.

whoa...off route! sorry, I'm in the wrong thread. Carry on.

I think we all owe somebody an apology.

A lot can happen in a week...

Yeah, what do you need old hangers for?

I completely agree with Matt. We really don't have an opinion because, as a group, we cannot formulate one.

Slow and steady, the desire to climb Must come from her if you want to really have a girlfriend partner. My wife only really accepted climbing when it was on HER terms. Forget your aspirations, listen to what your girl wants to do. Mix it up, go swimming or something.

Robert Young Pelton's The World's Most Dangerous Places is mandatory reading for anybody who has a interest in the world's events. a fasinating read, full of dirt and blood,corruption and money. The world's most dangerous places

A friend of mine lived on the Hoh indian reservation for a couple years...The native americians tell some pretty compelling stories.

booyah!

100 ton license? I've seen the study materials...hardcore. Congrats!

There is a huge difference between what makes it across the AP wire and what really happens. We have always tried to portray "the good guy"... misdirected sometimes,(Haiti,Vietnam, Somalia) but, in the eyes of the western world, we generally act on good faith. Commiting war crimes hurts our international credibility, It's what seperated us from our enemies. Who will join us next time?

Marketing? How many new (and cheaper) cam companies are on the market this year?

I am not talking about the Arabs, they have shown their hand,... I speak of the rest of the world. The repercussions of the events in Iraq have changed the opinions of people and nations who might have supported us... but now do not. The abuses our troops carried out are nothing new, in fact, under previous administrations, things that occured in Central America and other 3rd world backwaters, make the stuff that happened this month look like a frat party. What do you really think the CIA/SF have been doing for the last 40 years? We finally got pinched this time, and it's going to hurt.

Hmmm. Martlet, would a witty, intellegent and no doubt edcuated young man such as your self, be willing to agree that the events of the last month would efectively change the world view of the United States? How many of our european/ asian friends are proud to stand beside us right now? Nobody. We are fucked, my young republician friend.

I use tape gloves, they shave a letter grade off any crack you use them on... That's why I use them.

Don't you see? this is going to be the way it's going to be now...cancel the overseas vacation, because half of the world now wants you dead.

Look, this is NOT the time to keep perpetuating the liberial/conservative thing. The enimies of this country are going to use the weakend state our nation is in right now to their best advantage. Blaming the trouble caused by the Americian war on anybody else is bullshit. As a nation, we all share the burden. The world just changed, we are in trouble. Stop blaming each other and start watching your corner!

Just got back... man, that place is so much better than joshua tree!

I just suggested that a 5 to 1 is a good standard, not the standard.

5 to 1 safety factor is a good standard. Quicklinks are the only truely rated accessory in climbing. All the recreational stuff gives breaking strengths not working loads. but everybody knows that....

The contrast between Libecki and the rest is huge... he seems quite articulate and normal, the base jumpers act like...idiots.

He climbed the full north ridge of Stuart? The rest of the peaks were just ridge traversing?

I this where I say something stupid?..I'm all signed up!