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Hey wait a second 007, you keep on talking about "our" trip and now your saying your still looking for climbers? huh? You mean with six pages of trolling material you haven't hooked one, damn dude. The 'No Pay to Climb Cho Oye Expedition 2005' sounds like its off to a great start, for all the logistical planning that is involved.

Herb is always up for an adventure.

What, evidence, no way that is expecting too much from people who are too close minded to see that Al Jazeera is no different than any other news organization. If anything they probably do a better job at being objective than most news organizations. That is probably why they have been critized so much by US and Arab nations.

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Most of what is down at TAM in large fomat photographs with 2 instalations, though I wonder if came over to install them or maybe it was just the fact they were inside. I really like the earth cracks that he does, those are cool.

Seen it multiple times in J-Tree, they can be seen stalking the campgrounds sizing up potential meals during the day even. I seem to remember the particular event you describe, hippy girl running around screaming for someone to help her dog "It's being killed by a pack of wolves, somebody help it" Think it was winter 95 or 96. Sound about right? BB Yeah I was out there around that time, though I didn't witness any that crazyness, heard plenty of stories though.

All you that have multipule Avatars have way to much time on your hands.

First Friday of the month the SAM is free. Also there is a pretty good exhibit down at TAM. Andrew Goldsworthy, he is environmental sculpturist, most of the exhibit consists of photographs of his sculptures.

I heard the coyotes down in J-Tree, try and lure dogs away from there camp site then will gang up on the dog once they are away from people and kill 'em.

I just did Vesper a couple of weekends ago. It was really nice. The approach fairly straight forward, a small glacier to get to the base, I didn't need crampons, they do make it easier though, little funky getting on to the rock, fairly mellow once you get on the rock. It is a walk off once you get to the top. Check Nelsons guide for good info on the route and approach.

What a waste of money. I went to a pHish show, (luckily I didn't pay for the ticket), I had to leave after the third song. I don't know what gives, their music is ok on disc, live they suck. I guess to each their own.

I am guessing it would take about twenty of them maybe more though. If I knew they were out to kill me I would try to reduce their numbers as fast as I could, but I imagine I would get start getting tired after taking out 10 of them. Theme music for this event would either have to be Hatebreed or Einstruzende Nuebuaten or Slip Knot, yeah "you are all fucked and over rated, think I am going sick, this is the end of everything, you are the end of everything", those would be some good lyrics to have going through my head for the task at hand.

The truth is they are crazy about

Hey look at this, Alpiinfox got a job as a weather forecaster.

If you are not climbing you should check out the island of Madres de Dios. I remember reading a National Geographic article about it looks really cool. Check these links out. article 1 article 2 article 3

Try the Mercer loop counter clockwise, the turns are tighter and a lot more fun. The South Washington Lake loop is nice. The West Seattle ride out along the beach is flat and fast. Golden Garden to Shoreline riding through the neighborhoods is a lot of fun. Tough brutal climbing, fast windy street, just got to be careful for kids and cars, cause it goes through residential neighborhoods. The loop around Magnolia going counter clockwise is real fun too. Good climbing up to Discovery and real fast long downhill to canter Magnolia. Only the loop is too short. I usually do laps on it.

Great stuff everybody, lots to think about. Snowbyrd, what is up with the Costco Card question? Do they have cheap prices on laptops? cj001f, Wifi, Wayport, TMobile, are wireless networks like like wireless phone, where you have to have a particular card to work with a particular network or do all wireless card work for all wireless networks? CascadeClimber, what did you mean by OSX being visually appealing, looks good but not worth it? Is that what you meant? Just to clarify why I want to get a laptop is because I will be travelling abroad. I am not sure what I will do for work, but some thought are is setting up a stock digital photo site, or try to sell to stock agencies. Another thought is to try and set up some sort of exporting business on the web. This will take place in Africa and I will be doing a fair amount of traveling around so the unit does need to be durable. I know will want a quality screen. Sounds like I will want to invest in extra batteries. So any more suggestion, ideas, opinions, whatever, are welcome. As for the PC vs Mac I could really careless why you think one is better than the other, I am familiar with both and operate either just fine, I just want to know what sets it aside from other unit Mac or PC.

So let me ask this, how do you tell the difference between different HD and what does the rpm's have to do with a HD, more RPM the faster data is accessed? What do you mean when you say the HD is the limiting factor in notebooks? How do you tell the differences between screen? I have notice that is one of the things that I really don't like about getting a laptop is the screens. I know there is all this hype about Pentium processors and Josh you mentioned Petium M. So I imagine they make all different types, are they for different applications or just different levels of quality? So what are AMD and P4 are these processors, who makes them and what sets them apart? Thanks so far everybody. Snowbyrd thanks for that link.

Well thanks everybody, it looks like WA Pass is where I headed this weekend. Going to climb sum of dem Beckey classics.

I like sidewalk chalk, that way I can sign "Ken was here! insert date" on the summit and draw all kinds of purty flowers on the rawks.

Ok I am in the market for a laptop and not really sure what to look for. I know how to use a computer and I navigate around pretty good, but do I know the ins and outs of memory and RAM and all the other crap, NO. So I need help. If you folks out there that know this this well can spell out some of the stuff that they use to market computers that would be great. Also these are the main reason why I want it. 1. I want it for is backing up my music, I am tired of having to replace discs that get scratched. Eventually will probably get an MP3 player. 2. I will want to store digital images on it. 3. I will probably want to do photo editing on it, (later on and maybe even setting up slide show and short movies). 4. One idea I have had is maybe starting up a website, but don't know what type of computer requirement are necessary for that. 5. It will need to be sturdy, I will be doing a lot of traveling with and not necessarily in urban environments. 6. Also I will be traveling in foriegn countries with 220v, so I imagine you can get power regulator of sorts. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Man I totally agree, this is such great humor from all sides. Haven't had a thread like for such a long while it seems. Keep up the good work 007, the "PAY TO CLIMB" anti-mantra is awesome stuff.

Alright, my foot is starting to feel better and I am dying to get out some more. Last weekend went up with chelle and we had a nice ascent of Vesper, but the slab shite was no fun for the foot. Got any on ideas for alpine in the 7, sub-7 catergory for alpine? Don't want any slab, I need edges, big edges, cause rock shoes are no good right now and I am climbing in sneaks. I was thinking along the lines of Thompson also Triumph, but wondering if that hike is too long and if there is too much slab on Triumph. Got any idea, let's here em'?

I find that the hikeable summits with registers are boring . Summits that are harder to get to seem to have more interesting material to read . As for being a important historical record, who cares, does it really matter who was the 5th or 500th or 50000th person to climb the peak?