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iain-isn't this wanker doesn't ski he snowboards. send him to some over worked terrain with plenty of lifts.

sobo...my reply wasn't directed at you at all. it was directed towards the people who don't think it's good to take cell phones into the mtns for one reason or another. i've taken some flack from partners for taking mine. they like to tell me i'm not really getting away or whatever.

yes but taking a cell phone with you isn't cool

is there anyway that the SAR could determine if the call was frivilous and bill accordingly?

i'm with rumr too but i am being pragmatic. since i don't have a lot of vacation time left for chasing warm rock, i've chosen to play in the snow and like it.

i was told by someone from the ski patrol/SAR that depending on the year 47%-52% of all avalanche rescues involve snowmobile riders. i don't have that stat so don't ask. i trust the person in question.

it was on the winter trail.

yup! damn it, i need a wife!

*kiss kiss* thanks for taking the time to answer, PRINCESS

after i posted about my trip on the source lake trail saturday, i received a lot of PMs from people on the board. some of them were pretty harsh, some were thoughtful, some were warm and fuzzy. they all expressed concern. thanks! there's been a lot of negative crap on the board lately. it would be prettty easy to take a dim view of the posters. it was a nice to have some positive stuff from the people on cc.com. some of you wankers are good people and it was a pleasant reminder that this place offers up some good stuff

No way dude, I'm listening to the DRI album that is the pinnacle of the hardcore/metal movement, and from 1985 no less! Just wanted to share the love. ok if you won't get a life...get out of the 80s!

dkemp-an avy beacon might've helped here, newbie or not. the ski patrol from alpental were some of the first responders and were there very quickly. they carry avy beacons and may have been able to locate here. who knows if it would've been the same model or not but they certainly would've had a better chance.

i don't know where you were but at alpental we had recieved more than that on friday and had already received at least 6" by 10AM on Sat.

I had no doubt this was probably one of the worst days to be in the hills. Also noting it fell on a weekend when mobs of people might be out in areas like this. Too bad. Those forecasts are overall and very vague which cannot cover every aspect of the ranges within WA comprehensively. If you live and possibly die by the forecast bummer. I view them as general "What's up". on your comment about the forecasts. i saw the one that said "considerable above 4000' and moderate below" it was definitely considerable on the source lake trail.

i don't think that the guide service should be sued and i'm still not clear if these people were part of that group. i wonder if the guide service might start having clients wear avy beacons from now on?

i'm not clear from the original post if the woman who died was part of the MM group or just following their tracks. i was in the area at or very close to the time that avalanche happened. the conditions were obviously bad. we had revised our plans once and ultimately were lucky to have retreated altogether. i believe we encountered the group about 1/2 hour prior to this incident and may have followed their tracks. it seems obvious now that conditions should've kept us out of the are altogether. at the time, knowing the avalanche danger was high, we chose to go in and see for ourselves. perhaps not the brightest idea but an easy one to make. there were many people in the area and it's not that surprising someone was caught. i'm glad we left when we did. i spend a lot of time back in that basin and am very familiar with the conditions. before we start slamming people for this mistake take an honest look at what decision you would've made. i'll be acquiring an avy beacon

veggie you're right that was an overly broad statement: i love how MANY people who drive SUVs feel the need to justify it.

i love how people who drive SUVs feel the need to find ways to justify them.

UUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

so he's taking over your job,CBS?

weren't so much smart as lucky. the slide happened closer to the TH than i was first told, in a location we had crossed minutes before. the source lake basin/snow lake area are notoriously bad areas for avalanches. like mtn mouse said, many of get to the mountains whenever we can regardless of avalanche danger. this being the case, it would be wise to carefully select WHERE you'll be even if you don't always pick WHEN you'll be in the mountains. my condolences to the familiy of this woman

ehmmic will do a great job moderating this board. YAY ehmmic

additions to my original post: a) digging your self out by throwing snow on my car is not cool b) digging yourself out followed by stopping in the middle of the road to put your chains on is suck c) the area that's been cleared so people can drive up to the chevron is not parking spaces d) leaving the chevron w/ 6 pack in front of the sheriff will get you followed by said sheriff e) if you're fucking around in the snow, you don't deserved to be helped when you get your lame orange truck stuck in a snow bank f) there is STILL no parking on alpental road...read the damn signs!! G) BE CAREFUL in the backcountry please

i was on the source lake trail about that time today. my partner and i decided not to venture as far as source lake after seeing evidence of very fresh avalanches on the approach trail. fortunately an emergency at home force a quick return for me or we might've changed our minds. we saw several people lingering on the trail near one of the common avalanche shoots which had obviously growing fissures above. BE CAREFUL out there right now. from talking to a few a people it seems the person in question may have been on the N. side of source lake, below chair peak. this is secon hand info though.

I'm waiting for the Ford Explorer Starbucks edition to come out. Extra large coffee cup holders with special warmers to keep the coffee hot and a complimentary pack of wet wipes to clean up your pants when you dump your latte in your lap