minx

i've found an effecient way of keeping them straight is simply to issue each erik a number. Mister E is #1

i notice he didn't ask for your rope...

nope...added bonus. good news at work

does anyone besides me think that kobe bryant is the happiest person in the country to see this michael jackson media frenzy?

i'm changing my t-day week plans but i might be down there

chicago when i was 16- non climbing but still amazing-never ever try and drink tequila with a bunch of brazillian boys! 1990- florida and back with my best friend. wish i remembered more of it. there was climbing and drinking and riding and driving. best 8 mos of my life!!!! the roadside bivy in bucksnort tn, climbing in tn and NC in the clear cold winter sun. newyrs and mardis gras both in new orleans... my bday in the bahamas...the FL beaches...august in the valley on the way home...strange places we stopped along the way. CO a couple summers ago. old friends, good climbing in RMNP and the flatirons, no obligations, sunburned left arm. crazy stuck rope way up long's peak. 2 weeks wandering wherever.

Yea, I can. Just as you can disagree. My opinion is that we are a very privlaged society that is growing increasing self-centered and unwilling to help some of society's less fortunate, and fixated on the latest TV shows or Hollywood scandal. Yet it's easy to spit vile about anything, while doing nothing to fix it. You like to climb? Cool, so do I. But I still find time to give something back. You should too. of course you CAN tell anyone to do anything...you're right i just think it's out of line. RobBob is right...you should be inspired to volunteer. Recently something has struck a nerve with me so i'm giving my time now. h/e in a busy world maybe the best volunteering we can do when we have kids at home is to be an active parent. for some people volunteering is as much a hobby as climbing is for me and others who post on the board. i use my free time to spend with my son and climb. now i'm going to give up some of my climbing time to volunteer but it's not b/c i feel obligated to it's b/c it's something that matters to me. back to education...unlike ChrisT my son is not a straight A student but he is doing better in public school than he was in private. because he has some wonderful teachers, he's improving by leaps and bounds. part of that is b/c of the effort and time they put forth to staying in contact with me. one of the teachers who has been the most helpful was one that wasn't even his teacher. talk about caring and going the extra mile! i'm smart enough to know that i'm not a teacher. i tried very hard to help my son but i was doing a poor job of it and creating problems at home b/c of it. i found that when i went to his teachers and asked them how to help him, they had an amazing amount to offer. by involving myself a little more directly with his teacher everything changed. people like to blame education funding, class size, teachers and a lot of people for the educational decline in this country. maybe we should look more at the parents?

i don't think you can tell any of us we should be volunteering. i have recently found an organization with whom i will volunteer some time and i have in the past with a different group. h/e this is related to the time i have in my life. and yes this does include activities other than work. ie. climbing. regarding school and parental involvement. this is a different issue. volunteer in your own home and be there to help your kids w/school work, be involved in their school day, get to know their teachers and in some cases be involved enough to know when you can't help. i'm not a teacher and have no experience in teaching a youngster basic skills. active participation makes a difference. it would help if we were each responsible for our own kid's education instead of blaming teachers and schools for their failures.

my experience with private schools is a little different. i spent $10K a year in tuition and was required to offer up my time to help at the school and do fundraisers. i believe catholic school is a fair bit less expensive but that isn't an option. when i moved to a better school district, i took my son out of private school and put him in public school. he is thriving and doing very well in this setting. his class size is reasonable (19 students) and he has come a long way academically. despite spending all that money on private school he was still struggling and it took an amazing public school teacher to help get him back on track. this is the second year my son has been in public school. i continue to be pleased. perhaps its simply b/c of this school or this district but if they're spending $11K tax dollars/yr on my student it's a better value than the private school. he has more resources available to him and some great teachers guiding him.

you might consider floatation at source lake. there's been about 2' in the last 2 days and it was snowing when i left this morning.

i think i've got a cold *cough cough, sniffle sniffle* freshiez usually help...anyone want to come help in my recovery on friday with some turns at baker?

this should be the new logo for spray

run w/scissors

still snowing at my house

rumr the new 2003 nostalgia visor is also available pink for whiny pussies and avocado green for those who couldn't get enough living in the past with the gold version.

where do i get that wrapping paper???? seriously....

1. it's all about location...location location location! 2. i dunno but i sure the heck wish i did!

One of my partners lamented to me once while we were sport climbing, something to the effect of, "This is the reason why I like to climb with other women: That guy on that route over there has a really hot ass. I can tell it to you, but you won't appreciate it. With other women around, we can all relish it." this is a great point! but this doesn't require a women's climbing group just a female climbing partner. i have admired several asses climbing and shared the view with my women partners. one of the nice things about climbing is scenery i like to climb with some of my female friends, i enjoy mixed company on trips. on occasion, i enjoy all girl trips with my friends. i've never needed a women's group to make these things happen. it's interesting to read some other perspectives.

stunning...absolutely stunning even this migrates to a bolt debate

junebug, i want to make it clear that i'm not bashing you or anyone who participates in the group. i'm just saying i don't get it. from your post, i can see some advantages for you. if it works for you then it's a good thing. women definitely interact differently in a group of all women than they do in the presence of men. i guess if a person gains from this then it's an appropriate setting for them. have fun w/the ultimate frisbee tournament!

that a lot of us posters have potty mouths? Fuck, Minx, I mean fucking shit what the fuck are you fuckin talkin about? I mean fuck, really. oh for fucksake, fucking shithead, you fucking know exactly what the fuck i'm fucking talking about. i mean fuck really get a fucking clue you fucking wanker fuck.

so you're saying that you'd take erik not trask?