catbirdseat

So I wonder, was Alpine Monkey monitoring the goings on in the other thread for his amusement, until it "matured" to the point where he would post, or was he really busy elsewhere and didn't get around to posting about the found draws.

I remain a spagnostic.

I last spoke to Jim Yoder about a year and half ago. At that time he just finished the Tieton Guide and as a little burned out. I asked when the next Vantage Guide would be out and he said sometime in 2007, but you know how it goes. There aren't a huge number of new routes to document, but probably enough to warrant a new edition, rather than a reprint.

Septic Shock is very dangerous. Once you go down that road, there's a good chance you don't come back. A bunch of biotech companies have tried coming up with treatments for it and have failed. One of the most notable was Centocor which had a spectacular clinical trial failure.

Missing Draws Found

This is too funny! Ha ha ha. My draws are mismatched. Am I committing a fashion faux pas?

They'd be superb for your umbilicals.

I remember trying to find my way around Vantage the first time using a copy of Smoot's Climbing Washington. It's a long story. I'll tell it to you on the long drive out there.

I'd have to watch the guy do a hundred turns around a plastic cone before I'd substitute for one. The dude really has skills. Uses a lot of rubber to pull that off.

:grin:Ain't that the truth?

Yeah that's it. I didn't really think of how difficult it'd be to lead vs. Classic Crack... I TRed them both I saw a young fellow do his first trad lead on Twin Cracks. That wouldn't be my first choice, but he was young and very strong and did fine.

Regardless of how dry it is or I expect it to be, if I'm very far from the trailhead, I'm going to avoid cotton. There are all sorts of ways to get wet, from sweat to wet brush, stream crossings, etc. If I do wear cotton, such as on a really hot day, I still have synthetic clothes like (nylon, polyester or polypropylene) in my pack to change into.

They are great for storing your hard top in the garage ceiling and that's about it.

Also, there's Givler's Crack, 5.8. The hardest part is getting off the ground. The best part of the crack starts on the second pitch and it goes at around 5.6. You can do it.

It's called Twin Crack, isn't it? It's easier to top rope, but I'd say harder to lead.

Classic Crack,5.8+, Gibson's Crack. 5.5, Dogleg Crack, 5.8. The Left Crack, 5.6.

How strong are those snap links? Why not use a Quick Link? They are way cheap.

I can't make it on Thursday, but I can give you some info on current conditions. We went to Deception and found that all the really steep routes like Just Desserts and Won't get fooled again were wet. All the 5.9's in the We Did Rock area were dry enough. There is a new 5.10 minus route to the right of Blockhead, that you might like to try. It's one of Lucky's.

Okay folks, we're meeting up at the Trestle parking lot at 5 pm. Probably will climb at Deception Crag area.

Who wants to go. I can leave now, or when you get off work. Send PM.

How Shit Happens

Do not move to Greenwood. My 22 year old daughter just moved there.

Nice job on the trad lead and thanks for the TR! Sounds like you had a blast.

Strange as it may seem, this computer generated mish mash does have a wintery theme to it.

Soon you will have a bag that looks and functions like a plastic bag, but it will be made of biodegradable corn starch.