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How about why don't I just kill myself? My life is so devoid of meaning I just bought a 108" TV!!!!!

The bouldering cave is question is a pretty tight little area. It's conceivable that one could come off one wall and hit one's heat on the opposite wall. Also, the gravel is rather shallow in that area. I've gone through it to hit concrete on more than one occasion.

You think concealed weapons would have an impact on car breakins at trailheads? Dream on!

As I was leaving the gym at 8:30 pm this evening, several paramedics came in the door. I watched them head to the far back on the right side, a bouldering cave with mostly easier routes. I have no idea who was hurt or how badly. I passed an ambulance with lights and siren approaching as I drove away. Then I saw a bad wreck on I-5 at 130th. Someone in a red car hit the jersey barrier pretty hard.

I find it remarkable how closely the arguments in this latest thread replicate the ones in older thread started by Jammin. I say go climb. You'll fall soon enough. If you put in enough gear, something's going to hold.

Okay, it wasn't on a weekend, but at Exit 38, I saw a guy solo aid a 5.9 bolted route at We Did Rock using trekking poles as stick clips.

Where's the fun in that?

If old skewl means cleaning up after yourself, taking care of the environment, showing respect for your fellow climbers and self-reliance, call me old skewl.

So I wonder, was Alpine Monkey monitoring the goings on in the other thread for his amusement, until it "matured" to the point where he would post, or was he really busy elsewhere and didn't get around to posting about the found draws.

I remain a spagnostic.

I last spoke to Jim Yoder about a year and half ago. At that time he just finished the Tieton Guide and as a little burned out. I asked when the next Vantage Guide would be out and he said sometime in 2007, but you know how it goes. There aren't a huge number of new routes to document, but probably enough to warrant a new edition, rather than a reprint.

Septic Shock is very dangerous. Once you go down that road, there's a good chance you don't come back. A bunch of biotech companies have tried coming up with treatments for it and have failed. One of the most notable was Centocor which had a spectacular clinical trial failure.

Missing Draws Found

This is too funny! Ha ha ha. My draws are mismatched. Am I committing a fashion faux pas?

They'd be superb for your umbilicals.

I remember trying to find my way around Vantage the first time using a copy of Smoot's Climbing Washington. It's a long story. I'll tell it to you on the long drive out there.

I'd have to watch the guy do a hundred turns around a plastic cone before I'd substitute for one. The dude really has skills. Uses a lot of rubber to pull that off.

:grin:Ain't that the truth?

Yeah that's it. I didn't really think of how difficult it'd be to lead vs. Classic Crack... I TRed them both I saw a young fellow do his first trad lead on Twin Cracks. That wouldn't be my first choice, but he was young and very strong and did fine.

Regardless of how dry it is or I expect it to be, if I'm very far from the trailhead, I'm going to avoid cotton. There are all sorts of ways to get wet, from sweat to wet brush, stream crossings, etc. If I do wear cotton, such as on a really hot day, I still have synthetic clothes like (nylon, polyester or polypropylene) in my pack to change into.

They are great for storing your hard top in the garage ceiling and that's about it.

Also, there's Givler's Crack, 5.8. The hardest part is getting off the ground. The best part of the crack starts on the second pitch and it goes at around 5.6. You can do it.

It's called Twin Crack, isn't it? It's easier to top rope, but I'd say harder to lead.

Classic Crack,5.8+, Gibson's Crack. 5.5, Dogleg Crack, 5.8. The Left Crack, 5.6.