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How strong are those snap links? Why not use a Quick Link? They are way cheap.

I can't make it on Thursday, but I can give you some info on current conditions. We went to Deception and found that all the really steep routes like Just Desserts and Won't get fooled again were wet. All the 5.9's in the We Did Rock area were dry enough. There is a new 5.10 minus route to the right of Blockhead, that you might like to try. It's one of Lucky's.

Okay folks, we're meeting up at the Trestle parking lot at 5 pm. Probably will climb at Deception Crag area.

Who wants to go. I can leave now, or when you get off work. Send PM.

How Shit Happens

Do not move to Greenwood. My 22 year old daughter just moved there.

Nice job on the trad lead and thanks for the TR! Sounds like you had a blast.

Strange as it may seem, this computer generated mish mash does have a wintery theme to it.

Soon you will have a bag that looks and functions like a plastic bag, but it will be made of biodegradable corn starch.

I might be up for Thursday. Let me see what I can get done today.

No kidding. Two true stories: 1) I was waiting to get on a climb that was being top roped. The climbers knew I was waiting to get on the climb but proceeded to take a lunch break between climbers. 2) Patiently waiting to get on a climb being top roped. Again, the climbers knew I was waiting. After they both finish, I was informed that they would be making "2nd tries". But, there are thoughtless assholes in any field of endeavour, not just top roping. The climbers you cited could just as easily have said, "we'll be here awhile, if you want to top rope you can jump on our rope, if you like".

That's Soylent Green!

talk about apples and oranges... Rudy, wrong metaphor. Quantitative difference not qualitative. More like tangerines and grapefruit.

Wait a minute, a six year old in diapers?!?

Leaving fixed draws for week is one thing, but leaving them for a year is another. You did the right thing.

I've recently rediscovered top roping. I've been doing too much leading. My climbing skills have increased and my confidence on lead has increased. If you top rope something really hard, at your limit, then back off a grade or two when you go on lead, it seems a lot easier.

Time for another entitlement story. We once lived in Santa Ana Heights California in a rented house with a nice yard with lots of ornamental plants, which our own small kids knew enough not to molest. We had neighbors who lived across the driveway and had a son about the same age as my son, which at this time was about 3 year of age. Little Ryan was invited to come over and play with our kids, and he did for a while, but my wife caught him standing there pulling leaves off a flowering vine one by one. She told him, very nicely that there was a rule at our house against hurting the plants. Well the mother was in the other yard and overheard this and said, "you can't discipline my child! Only I can do that!" Well my wife said, "when your son is at our house, he must play by the rules at our house, all the other kids that come to play here do, and we all get along just fine". The woman stormed over the fence and grabbed her kid, saying, "Ryan will never be allowed at your house again". And we both said, "that's just fine". And he never did.

You could take your truck to Lee Wilcox at Lynnwood Auto and Truck. Good service and a fair price and he's a skier and climber. Lynnwood Auto & Truck Service 6131 212th St SW Lynnwood, WA 98036 (425) 776-5888 http://www.yellowpages.com/sp/moreinfo/index.jsp?listingId=78605166&id=78605166&from=qpibp&qcat=Automobile+Repairing+%26+Service&qs=WA&qc=Lynnwood&qcid=204261634

What does that mean? I thought the point of orienteering was finding your way through wild terrain. Build a course and soon you'll just be following a trail. Aren't the courses completely different for each event?

This Pandora?

Cascade Cobbler There, I fixed your link.

Those look very much like the BD/ABC Heuvos/ Smileys, even to the color code.

Yep, once we get the weather. I think it would be better to start a new thread, though.

You are such a turd.

One reason is that the route is overhanging and it would be very difficult to rappel the route to place them. Is that it?