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Try the Old Durr Road out by Ellensburg. It transits both Manashtash and Umtanum Ridges. It's pretty cool.

Bad cough and a stomach ache.

Monitor the Events Forum for Pube Club 12/14, and hopefully Dave will get it organized.

It's a cat. Elizabethan? Where's the ruff?

RobBob, will you be in town on Tuesday? If so, a stop at Pub Club is mandatory.

baddabing!

...and keep it wrapped it up, me bucko mate.

This was supposed to be the thread that would bring all the hot chicks out of the woodwork. But we get you queers instead. I am soooo disappointed.

It's YOU'RE as in YOU ARE, retard.

Wow, Jason, that is a cool article. I think everyone should read it. The guy has some amazing insight.

Oh, lordy, I've done the 50 year old glavanized steel plumbing thing. Yuck. I finally ripped it all out and put in copper. I still hate crawl spaces. Muffy do you like cobwebs and spiders?

If I had a wrecking ball crane, why hunt tigers? Why not skyscrapers?

Where's the sport in that? I'd use a bow and arrow and a club. So what if your aim isn't so good? It would be a much better thrill.

Say it was five years. I'd want to take more risks, but not TOO much risk. I could have an awful lot of fun in five years and wouldn't want to cut it short.

This morning on NPR there was a story about people attending classes about emigrating to Canada. This one woman said she worked in computer software and was unemployed with two kids. She said all the jobs have been offshored and that Bush is behaving like "there is no tomorrow". How else could one interpret the total disregard for the environment and for a huge debt burden that our grandchildren will be paying? And I got to thinking does Bush know something the rest of us don't? Maybe we're going to be wiped out by an asteriod in ten years? Maybe someone is about to nuke us? Well, I don't really think Bush has any knowledge of imminent disaster. I just happen to think he is someone who never learned to share his toys. So I went ahead and searched the word "armageddon". It turned up zero hits on cc.com. So I'm thinking, I can't believe we haven't hashed this topic! Maybe we have. What would you do if you knew the world would end in five years and you were the only one who knew? Would you tell anyone? They wouldn't believe you. Of course, there are lots of people in cults who believe this now, there always has. But suppose you were a scientist who had absolute knowledge. What would you do? For those of you who have read On the Beach, I think Neville Shute had it right. Behavior changes depending on the time frame, with increasingly wilder behavior as the end nears.

They make a foam peanut packing material out of starch which dissolves in water and can be put down the drain. This is a much more environmentally friendly choice than styrofoam.

Dave, someone HAD to say it.

I think a better word is "mitigated". A heavier climber WILL cause a larger impact force on the anchor for a given fall distance and rope.

So many people are absolutely clueless about securing their loads. I never rely on a single strap or cord for anything. But that is what the majority of people do.

I'll see you all down there from Dec. 26-Dec. 30.

Chirp, it all sounds familiar. Bah, humbug! If they are going to die they should get on with it and reduce the surplus population.

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Dude, you need to tell her that bouldering pads make climbing SAFER. Tell her that the chance of injury will be greatly reduced and the University will be less exposed to LIABILITY. Safety first!

So far, all responses have been in character. Dru, you need to come up with your usual tangential reference or non sequitur.

Many of you have no doubt been following the series of articles in the Seattle Post Intelligencer about the use of stun guns by police to subdue recalcitrant suspects. Every once in a while they'll get someone sky high on cocaine or PCP. They'll die from a heart attack and the coroner will say that drug overdose, restraint and the stun all played a part in the death. Various civil rights advocates are saying that the stun guns are lethal, even though there is no case of lethality absent the drugs. They say the use of the stun guns should be suspended, pending further study, etc. My question is this. Had the stun gun not been used in these cases, wouldn't it be very likely that the suspect would have died anyway? Also, wouldn't it be likely that the officers would have been much more at risk themselves? In some cases, the suspects might have ended up shot. If you take away stun guns, that leaves guns. I can't understand these people that want to ham string the police at every turn.