billcoe

Shhhhhhhhh.......sleeping dawgs.....shhhhhh..... Have fun!

_________________________________________________ I think some of these folks just cut and pasted the same posts they had last time. Hovever: you bringing it up only reminds the haters of this route (and there are some who are not posting this time) that they forgot to chop it last time. It puts the idea back on top of their heads. Sometimes sleeping dogs should just lie. The best info out there is alpinedaves web site and I think you have to fill in the knowledge gaps yourself and make it an adventure. I personally would hate to see it "chopped", and was probably heading up there hoping to do it with Nolse later this summer if he's still up for it. I've read the arguements pro and con and think the route should stand as is. I love long routes.....but since my opinion doesn't seem to make a f*uck's worth of difference to anyone though..... -anyway- I think this was posted last years thread as well Kevin, but head here for information including the upside down topo (vs compared to whatever the heck is happening here): Alpine Dave gives the Smackdown on Infinite Bliss click here

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just do

Kev: there is talking and there is doing. My thoughts on Infinite Bliss: More do. Not talk. ___________________________________________________ I'm about to put the metal in my mouth reading this PAINFUL F*EN THREAD. Especially thinking that a near identical thread happened last year when you asked for info on this route. There was only talk then, no do. It reminds me of a kennel full of dogs all barking. Just Do.

NOT! At least Anker and Holding. Admirable is my thoughts on their efforts. Not idiots.

Technically Cuba. They should just left them in Afganastan and let them deal with them. They would be shot by now. Acutally, the Northern Alliance took a bunch of captured Taliban prisoners off of US hands and put them in containers to be moved to a prison camp. They sat in the hot sun for a long time. When the trucks with the containers finally arrived at the prison, all of the prisoners were dead. It was reportedly not an insignifigant number nor did it appear to be an unintentional thing either.

Scott: thanks for layin it down. Fuck these dudes trying to piss on yer day for no apparent reason. Except for smallshoes, I'm still laughing about his post. I think he has ya there. Anywho: welcome back to Gods country!

I think Ujhan already did those.

Sweet stuff Shapp, we gotta guess the location?

Top knotch Dwayner. On another note: there is a group of unemployed clowns still looking for work. Who wants to tell Mr Bobo that he and his buddies were not invited this year? Not me.

Rock Gym Far East? BTW, Sean: ya got to get your pussy ass out there, you'd OWN that place.

I don't think we can say that word here.

Damn you really are Snide ! Welcome and nice call on the diagnosis. Now maybe a real Dr. can step in?

Hey - I didn't authorize my pic to be sprayed on the internet. I'm planning on losing that gut BTW.

Sgt Schultz. (ie, I dunno) sorry Bri. But if you need a belay next time you're out climbing in a dress, something to keep in mind is that my belay skillz are topknotch! (insert leer here)

Well, if you're takin about me, them join the ranks with legions of people including of out of shape 3rd graders who out-pull me. I'll grant you that and suspect that your penis is longer as well. BFD Good thing I'm not competing with ya. What did ya pull last weekend hotshot? BTW, I suspect that the 10a I did Saturday will cause sore muscles for @ 3 days (my predition). Thats how weak I am, so top that.

Won't your skirt get wet Sean?

Now Minx, that is a better layout than your origonal post, thanks for adding some data. But don't make me go dredge up 20 pages from the last 5 years on CC.com alone of Dwayner and Pope explaining the how, why, and whats describing why all bolts are bad. I don't agree with those dudes, I clip bolts. Sometimes I even put them in. I suspect that they are getting worn down from endlessly repeating themselves, like you have asked them to do again. It was this very subject which got Dwayer banned from the site too. BUT- I'd rather discuss the endless nuances with everyone next time I'm drunk, around a campfire. Cause I pretty much agree a lot with G-spooter and Joseph too.

Thats crap, and incidentally what REI is copping too as well. Support those who support us. ClimbMax in PDX stocks the Yates, the new Metolius Safetech, Misty Mt and a bunch of others as well.

You are so welcome. I live for your happiness: (I say that to my kids to joke around:-) We should do it again. Start getting serious? Hey, wheres the TR from your husbands Mt. Hood (the "Everest of Oregon") climb BTW? I didn't see him on the news so it much have been OK. I hope it was a (good) dream come true for him.

Matt: I can empathise. My very first time in JT, I learned that in a flaring squeeze chimney, no matter how little pro you have in or how much you are about to grease out, do not use your head and face (this was before helmets) for a jamming device to catch your breath and try to pro the back of the chimney. Thats do not . Mythosgirl: That pic is proving again to me that sport climbing sucks. Damn that looks rash. Ouch. I was gonna show up on this thread and talk about last weekend where I still have thorns from blackberry bushes stuck under my fingernails...festering...making typing and climbing difficult but I got nothing on your folks. (hey Dru, that damn athletic tape on my hands saved my life, you try doing vertical while simutaniously trying to sweep blackberry bushes away as the dirt patch you are on is melting away). Geeze, you cripples take it easy hey? (BTW Rad, how much did ya get for the kidney?)

Sorry, if a picture says a thousand words, this is really what I meant about this subject.

If you are still ignorant with the plethora of information available and the endless arguments that have been postulated over and over and over and over and over and over - then it must be that you are just too damn stupid to ever figure it out. This arguement is so old and so beat..... So can you explain why anyone should even bother trying now? What a total friggan pointless waste of time that would be. Have a nice day! Bill