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I know, but think end game. If we can constrain and restrain ourselves we wind up with a climbing area. If the local residents see what they percieve as a train wreck heading their way and object to the commissioners, we get nothing. ps, I've been walking the walk. Kellie said not to climb there and I haven't. Recommend the same for everyone.

Dcramer: Can you help me out? Link Thanks Bill (trying to avoid thread drift)

On the Leavenworth trad ethic thread: DC Cramer was talkin cleaning a crack out and said: Does everone know what he's talkin about ir is it just me being stupid? If you know, then what are they and what do you use for "crack tools."

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Eldente: I don't see what you are looking at, I don't see him talkin shit about anybody. He's saying that it is an issue for some folks and put some links on if you want to further investigate.

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I wanna be Frank. Except that his hamburger is now very cold.

What long rock routes would you recommend as being better than this one Kenford?

V: Climbing only cuts into the spray time around here. Luck with a partner.

If someone is retrobolting climbs where crack pro has been used, the solution to that is simple, pull the mank out. Dawg and I agree. However, if a FA party puts the bolt in, especially if the route has never been done by the hardment of yesterday, or anyone, then you have to suspect a legitament bolt which is there to keep your ass alive - ie, the crack is a loose block or flake on 1 side or pro won't work for some reason. -example- There was a pic of Croft in a climbing mag not long ago. It appeared he was clipped to a bolt right by a crack. In the ensuing furor he explained that it was an illusion and no pro would have fit in there. Croft is about as pure and as hardman as it gets and would not have lied. The bolt was necessary.

Would this not be the much discussed, employed and enjoyed 69 model?

Lets see, sure the cop is being a dick. Cop asked him to stand over there, he doesnt and continues to "discuss" it. Dude, little lesson for ya: just STFU and listen to the cop for a moment. Then the guy says he decided to end the discussion by leaving, cops says stop and he doesn't. Hmmmm, good thing it wasn't me cause I'd have tazzed him twice. Once on general prinipal and once as a lesson cause he sounded like he needed one. I have little sympathy for the jackass. Or for the cop for that matter....I'd have tazzed him too. Damn, I gotta get me one of them things.

It will be gone before you get on it. Might have a secondary objective just in case. They aren't calling it "Briss" for nothing. Big chop! Damn thats funny... (the Briss part only, funny play on words)

Can volenteers get a gratis parking pass for the rest of the year?

Well, I vividly remember 2 field trips to the Camas pulp and paper mill. The whiring and deafenig noise was very impressive. As was the smell. I still like the way that plant smells, despite most others finding it intolerable.

Pee Wee NOT shining. Opps, hand got stuck in the cut-out bottomed popcorn again.

Damn proud solo Pope.

Skyclimb! You rock! Great stuff there, thanks for putting it on the site and sharing it with us landlocked cube farmers who have been spending the last 2 weeks howling at the moon and each other. (see Infinite Bliss thread for further clarification). Way to get after it.

Rent a climbing movie by way of payback and make her suffer. revenge IS sweet.

I don't know why Tom Potter feels this is acceptable practice. Its not acceptable for people who are trying to apply for legal immigration status to get shunted to the back of the line all the time by people who don't want to fill out the paperwork and wait. It's bullshit. link here "165 Arrested In Immigration Sting Also on KOIN.com Immigration Raid: Archbishop Worries About Families Torn Apart Del Monte Responds To 'Immigration Visit' 165 Workers Arrested In Sting PORTLAND - Immigrations and Customs Enforcement officials arrested 165 people Tuesday after raiding three locations looking for undocumented workers. raidAmerican Staffing Resources is a contract company that provides staffing service for fruit and vegetable processing plant, Fresh Del Monte. ICE officials raided the ASR office on North Lombard, their satellite office inside Fresh Del Monte and Fresh Del Monte itself. It was at these locations where officials arrested three managers for knowingly hiring undocumented workers and supplying them with false documentation. The investigation began six months ago after officials received tips. Investigators then sent in an undercover informant posing as someone looking for employment at Fresh Del Monte. He was told by an ASR representative that a fake social security card would be O.K., as long as it looked like an official government document. Officials say up to 90 employees had fraudulent or forged social security cards, some of which displayed the real social security of juveniles, the elderly or people who have died. Fake green cards were issued as well. All but 30 of the 165 people taken into custody will be transported to a federal facility in Tacoma, Wash. Those 30 were released for health reasons or to care for dependents, but they too face a federal immigration judge. Portland Mayor Tom Potter says he's unhappy with how the raids were carried out. He released this statement: "I am angered by this morning's arrest by federal officers of approximately 150 Portland residents who were working at a local produce company. I certainly understand why federal officials executed criminal warrants against three individuals who stole and sold Social Security numbers. But to go after local workers who are here to support their families while filling the demands of local businesses for their labor is bad policy." 6/12/2007"

Nice find Hemp, thanks for posting. They say that we can go back to not worrying about belay loops. I wonder if battery acid (and ageing) was to blame on T Skinners harness? Did the NPS do any testing on the loop?

Almost forgot: Rocky Butte notes: As Geoff will tell you, there is a ground wasp nest located at Video Bluff on the left side. If you were to step left of Live Wire or right of AC/DC and try to stick you dick in the dirt, (don't do it -you heard it here first) ....right about there. They are smaller and less aggressive than regular Hornets/yellowjackets and look identical to the species who set up shop at the base of Vertical Therapy last year (Doug Hutchinson and a few others can tell you about those). Although there is not much nest activity, and they appear to be the type who will not bother you if you do not bother them, one of them did cross that line of co-existance and took exception to Geoffs tit. ___________________________________________________________ Next - to whomever is doing all the gardening up there, I did some of that last year and got yelled at by some jackass I'd never met previously who claimed to have climbed there for 26 years....anyway...... Thank you from all uf the rest of us.