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Agree with you there. I'm convinced that if we knew each others identities there would be a hell of a lot less anonymous pussies hiding behind their computers yelling, screaming, being mean and rude and generally acting like stupid spoiled children with no repercussions or consequences. It's one of the things that sometimes yanks my chain as well. An occasional ass-kicking would straighten out the rare jackass who then stepped out of line. I don't see this issue as an ethical question. Live life by the Golden Rule, not the Golden Shower Rule. It was fine to post a pic of some anonomys attractive girl (I never even saw it), it was asked to be and was removed. No issues or worries. I'm glad it was. We should treat others how we'd like to be treated.... Hmmmm, Ok, maybe better. Cya all Bill

I was in the Elkhorns last weekend, should have piped up Ken. Probably be doing some off trail wandering outside tomorrow if anyone is lonely....

Or at least you're not buying it twice:-0

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Do you know why the country is named Liberia?

link Headline Titled: " Feb. 21 - President Bush dances alongside President Ellen Johnson-Sirleaf while visiting Liberia."

Is that not your shrub?

What time? I have a most of the day wilderness excursion expedition already planned for Sat that is suppose to end up finishing in a garage that has a climbing wall for a beer drinking fest, but maybe I will get exhausted soon enough and we can relocate the beer drinking thing..... Time?

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The main difference that with the rule of law, we can be assured that we can argue these issues and endlessly slam any politician anywhere at anytime. The people of Cuba have no such ability at any time or anyplace. Before or after the prick dies. Here's to the people of Cuba: who kicked out some evil bad M*fuckers that were sucking them dry like parasites and got a whole different group of evil bad M*fuckers that sucked them dry like different parasites. May Castro now retire to die a slow painful death, like many of his political prisoners and critics did after they were arrested by the bastard and his cronies, and the people of Cuba finally and truly become free. I do not mean as a puppet to the US either. Free. No parasites. To anyone who wants to be an apologist for the dictator: fu*k you

Not the lower left side of the fuel tank? Sigh, sounds like them boyz need to put down the bong and get some more training. Update: Missile was reported to have hit target. It will take a day to determine if the fuel tank was hit or just the National recon satellite in general, however, while you wait for this tidbit, be aware that parts and chunks of metal are now slowly heading your way....but most will burn up before they get to your house.

Nice thread revival, the picture is a great touch Don. Reminiscent of the uber Mensch( missing umlaut) Gaston Rebuffet seen here: I believe that is either the classic "Aguille De Testicale Shrinkage" or the "Gendarme Du Nutz in De Throat", both Chamonix classics.

I know it's still early yet, but it sounds to me like Porter is proclaiming Obama the Presidential winner based on these early preliminary results. Well, it's been called, it's over.

Oh crap, it was suppose to have a smiley face in there somewhere. You must have read it with a frown. Dohhh! ...Sorry, don't be hatin'! On a lighter note, they have this thing tracked to somewhere around where I was born in Eastern Washington. .........coincidence....? I think not. Was watching War of the Worlds with Tom Cruise the other day.... and I must say that I'm very suspicious of this flaming meteorite, if things that look like Porter start crawling out of the ground anytime soon I'm moving into your basement.

Possibly Climbingpanthers homepage ?

At least you will be going out on top, unlike the rest of us.....

A link please.

Link I just tripped over this and thought I'd post a link here. Some nice art, Dave' an old climber so some of it is climbing related and some isn't.

FF, that MF Sh*t cracked me up big! Nice work!

The season started today.

Yeah, good point. That was one of the things we had discussed. I pointed out Smith Rocks as a model for growth. I can remember when it took a raft to go climb there in the springtime, and we had the entire place to ourselves. I actually sometimes like it better now as there is less loose rocks and significantly more routes along with that easier access. However, the system is working well even with (or because of) the hordes that arrive from all over the world. The state makes good money, climbers get to climb some awesome stuff, and the impact is almost nil once the first trails and the bridge were put in. If you go to Smith next year it will look just like it did last year, despite the huge user groups (including hikers and picnickers) all enjoying the place. I wish there could be a guarantee to get this harmony happening in other places....but alas.....it seems like it changes from area to area.

Possibly JH, however, something this public would be watched by the world, they'd need a good cover story...... We may not know for 30 years the real truth, which could in fact be just about any of the various speculations on this thread or perhaps something altogether different.

I'm gonna have to start paying attention to your posts I see as that water is deeper than it appears from the boat. My time in the military taught me that even a .005 deep scratch on the ablation paint on the cone of a warhead would cause it to destroy itself and melt upon reentry. Who knew? These "little" things never get discussed. Like the true speed of a nuclear powered Aircraft Carrier or the actual distance a particular missile can fly. ...still secret and classified, the published numbers radically divergent from reality. The real story is often so much more interesting than even we can guess. Like this. Link The shocking knowledge gained from all this was that since the 1970's, at least, the United States could and did hear the positions of every other countries submarines and in fact also knew within a few feet where a whale had farted anywhere at anytime in any ocean anywhere in the world. The Soviets had no such capability, and tried and did buy in the 80s the milling equipment from Mitsubishi which they knew could mill the subs props to such a tight tolerance to as evade leaving a trace which the US could hear with our extensive ocean listening program. The Pentagon estimated at the time that the few million dollars Mitsubishi would make on the sale (which from their actions and attempts to hide the transaction they knew to be illegal) had to be compensated by spending several billions of dollars by the US to regain that ground and that advantage.