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Thank you. ....anyone?

Congrats. Sounds like maybe one of you isn't a big pussy and just went over and had the conversation that should have taken place originally, instead of the massive internet spew and calling out of Scotland Yard, press releases, the Black helicopters and relentless, needless and ignorant off-topic and pointless repetitive accusations of bolting IB. Why is everything about "calling the authorities" all the time. You folks still expect your mommies and daddies to take care of you too when you're 40 years old? That talk should have gone something like this: " Hey, come here kid "(waving kids over), "turn that shit off I got something to say". Then you tell them your position and they leave. Simple.

About what a high end hooker now costs when converted to Loonies. Why?

OMG ! Did you just copy and paste my words from the "Find the bolts Dawg" thread? I can't believe I'm agreeing with you.

Thank you for placing your order with Mountain Gear. Oh who am I kidding, serious impulse control issues here: after looking at the pics and panting like a dog staring at a bone, I just bought the 1,2, and 3 - which correspond to the most common Alien sizes I stuff in cracks. Bought them from Mountain Gear too, it's well deserved as Paul Fish of Mt Gear pull tested the Aliens and confirmed that they had some huge quality issues which led to the recall when CCH earlier had it's head stuck in the sand, you just got to love a guy like that. Anyhow Dave, if you ever wander by where I happen to be, say hi and feel free to borrow and fondle. Kevbone had a handful of my small Alien offsets in use last weekend (the very ones Archenemy sold), so I don't get too touchy if you want to use some as long as I'm around and you don't hangdog on the stuff.

Ha ha - actually I think I'm out of room in my basement, Ujahn has been wanting to get some Aliens as we always use mine and he doesn't own any, and I'd convinced him to hold off till now, so I'll be using his when he gets them!

Donny Osmond sold more than the Doors, and Rod Stewart and a bunch of other unknown wankers outsold the Rolling Stones? Whats to question?

Mountain Gear has them: here

It's near epidemic proportions! Babiez are everywhere it seems. I heard yesterday that Bryan (posts as Crimper) JUST had his lil one, and this am I hear Bennie just had his (posts here as Beacon Ben) To top it off, I got out inbetween rainstorms and got a half a lap in yesterday with Jim and Kevin (kevbone). Turns out Kev has one in the oven now as well. [font:Arial Black]So Congrats to all of you! [/font] Although it does appear to be a strange and unusual epidemic?

Looks like a great line with plenty of natural stuff to tie off! I think Canadians just have a different mindset somewhat. I remember being up there in the 80's right after they'd drilled the 1-2" diameter holes that huge Columbia (?) Boulder to manufacture an entire 40 foot route on an otherwise overhanging featureless boulder face. Then they'd taken 2 x 4's and run them out over the top and covered it with plastic to keep it dry, and then they rap bolted it:-)! Then they put out a guest book where you could sign in and put who you were, where you were from, and what your comments were. Invariably all the Americans had comments that ranged from "this sucks you dickheads" to "How could you do this as this sucks very big you dickheads" or comments generally along those lines, while almost all of the Canadians were supportive and had positive comments. Sort of a precursor to the OJ thing where it seemed like most blacks thought he was innocent while most whites thought he was guilty. Nice to see they are only cleaning vegetation out here, thats a massive effort for sure - good luck with it!

Jackie DeShannon, "put a little love in your heart" just did it for me yesterday. This thread needs a climbing pic. Nice rant Rudy.

You know this to be true: people are like onions Ivan, under the skin, we all have layers. Some of us have more and some of us have less shielding them than others is all.

Agreeing to what Matt said: but thank you Don, and may success, good luck and happy climbing follow you as well.

I was going to earlier just post “Screw you” and leave it at that but thought it over and decided not to. You see, unlike you, I do take it personally. Very much so. As far as why I put the original post on here to start with, if that was one of your questions or you might give a flying fu*k about, it was because I find the bitchy, sanctimonious pontificating and reaching lecturing Don continually interjects offensive and objectionable. Much like what you just brought to this thread, except from you I find it personally objectionable and offensive. I've done enough stupid hypocritical things to know not to toss rocks at others glass houses, however, when I get preached at, I’m still a bit of an anarchist as well, and it still rankles me when someone (in my mind) shows up preaching black and white bullshit at me. Like Don. So I directed this post at him, it’s maybe my 3rd shot at a similar theme, and he’s annoyed enough that he won’t respond, although I know he reads every word, which is what I want. If I could have a discussion with him about it, I would, because I suspect he’s a pretty fine fellow. As he’s not around, I’ll put it on the same place he puts the stuff I find objectionable. I’ll confess as well that I don’t do a good job of remembering all the things I’ve ever discussed with people. I do recall only 2 bolting conversations that involves you. The big one was when you power drilled a bolt: "fait accompli", into the apron out at Beacon. You didn’t ask me beforehand,, nor did you follow what you knew to be the protocol to do so. If my memory serves me correctly, I was one of the only folks not to be giving you a raft of bitchy, sanctimonious pontificating and reaching lecturing shit about it,. Nor did I give you a raft of bitchy, sanctimonious pontificating and reaching lecturing bullshit and crap when you then just went and yanked it right out: “fait accompli” and again without discussing it with me beforehand. I can see that my lack of doing so may have confused you as to my actual bolting position, which I am trying not to preach as I have understandings both ways on the subject. It is not black and white at all to me as confused and hypocritical as I can be. I try to refrain from bitchy, sanctimonious pontificating and lecturing about it as I do see several sides, like with that Beacon Bolt. In the end, in the grandest scheme of things, it’s not all that damn important anyway. I can post my position later at some point although I do not believe that anyone will give a rats ass. I could be wrong about the Beacon bolt you put in as my memory about this kind of thing is poor, but of course you can go hunt up the very thread I’m referencing and find the very words we all used then. I even invite you to toss them back in my face if my memory is incorrect about all that crap. Frankly, it didn't seem as important to me, a mountain out of a molehill so to speak, as it appears to be to you now from reading your many words, many of I read to be slamming me. In all of your words I never did see a fuc*king word one that indicated you couldn't see a single fuc*king bolt in the Yos pic I posted. Which was the fuc*king question I asked. When you read my words there, and here as well, remember this most important of underlying points AS I SEE IT: to you, they may only be words: but to me, it’s personal.

Fallon interview Former head of Centcom until pressured to resign for political reasons. This is a "Must read" IMO.

I would think most people would have just asked first.

The official Raindawg thread is over here: Poke the Dawg with a stick thread Replete with pictures of Mideast Crisis in the valley. I have some positive things to say about Dawg too, but thats for another thread and another day. ___________________________________________________ It's worthwhile to note Don, that Rodden didn't rate the climb anything. Not 5.7 not 5.14 blah blah blah. She just free climbed it in the middle of a heavy snowfall winter is all. Like to leave a picture of the route that Ron Kauk, one of the top climbers of the 80s tried and tried, but couldn't get up free. You watching this Dawg, cause thats whats being discussed here. Watch this lil girl climbing and putting in those shiny metal things as she goes up. She did "the climb on all natural gear, placing all protection—eight pieces in total; TCUs, small offsets and one nut—on lead." BTW, that pic up there isn't it, it's Phoenix at 5.13 - but I just liked it cause shes showing some hot tongue action. Here's Meltdown: What's to complain?

My wife says I'm losing the hair that remains, as you can see in my Avatar pic there:-) Why do you say that Doug?

Thanks Kevin. Nice to see someone knows what I'm about. :kisss:

Our laws have only served to make a bunch of other wise fine people criminals. Closer to home: today Seattle news: Link "Man reports 'theft by escort' to police By BRAD WONG P-I REPORTER A Seattle man who hired an escort to "have fun" told police that she stole $170 from him after she went to her car to fetch some condoms. The man, who is in his 50s and lives on Whitman Avenue North near Lake Union, had called the escort after spotting an advertisement in the Feb. 21 edition of The Stranger, a police report filed Thursday said. The woman arrived at his apartment late last month for the rendezvous. He agreed to pay her $150 to "have fun" and $20 to cover her gas. "At some point into the fun," the woman asked the man whether he had condoms, according to the report. Upon hearing that he did not, she said she would get some from her car. As the man waited for her to return, he looked out his window and realized the escort was driving away in a silver car. Since that night, he has called her "numerous times" to get his money back. "But she has not answered or returned his calls," the report said. The man even called The Stranger to inform the newspaper of what happened. The police officer who took the report told the man it is against the law in Seattle and the state of Washington to pay someone for sex. But the man wanted to file a police report in case the woman "was doing this to more of her customers."

Most civilized countries in the world have government oversight on the houses of pleasure, and it is not just legal, but enjoyable to shop for services of pleasure. You may have heard of the red light district in Amsterdam? 3-4 street over to the SW is the real deal, where tourists are rare and $10-$20 (1974-1976 dollars) will get you a long audience with an attractive young woman who's goal is to only make you happy: because she has a great life, she gets paid for sex. You go to any working class city in Germany and throughout Europe the same thing applies, maybe better. Cologne (Koln) has an 8 story whorehouse where every kink, proclivity or enjoyable activity can be acted out. Girls come in every sizes, shape, texture, color and attitude. Best of all, the state ensures that the transaction is smooth for both sides as they have a financial interest. So, the girls are protected from predators and tested weekly. Of course, I've been with the same good woman 28 years now, and only have old memories, but $5500, WOW! Times do change. [rant]Prostitution should be legal, prostitutes should be respected and have an enjoyable profitable job instead of often drug riddled prey- shit on and exploited by pimps, customers and police alike in this country. [/rant]

Prostitution should be legal. No reason it isn't. I've done the legal prostitution thing, many times, and enjoyed it all but once when I was drunk. However the artical says: "Spitzer, 48, built his political legacy on rooting out corruption" He was also the former "Attorney General". "Time magazine had named him “Crusader of the Year” when he was attorney general and the tabloids proclaimed him “Eliot Ness.”" Had he been upfront about decriminalizing and-or legalizing prostitution, I'd give him a pass, but as the head law enforcement official of the state, why can he prosecute another citizen for an identical deed, then do it himself and expect any kind of a free pass from anyone? "His cases as state attorney general included a few criminal prosecutions of prostitution rings and into tourism involving prostitutes. In 2004, he was part of an investigation of an escort service in New York City that resulted in the arrest of 18 people on charges of promoting prostitution and related charges." It seems to me that he chose not to say anything when the mob hounded others, and in fact he joined the mob and helped, and now it's his turn. He needs a new job, toss him under the bus or to the wolves! BTW, you see the high price of pussy in New York? $5500 to pump some dude? Wow, I'm thinking of cross dressing and a career change.

That looks like an excellent book. I just ordered it. The way this kind of thing can turn out, a book like this can help define the political agenda on a voting year. Of course, you sadly still can't reclaim the lost money and lives you just pissed down the toilet. Here's to hope for the future. The real question is this: do you continue and stay the course now that you've invested the bulk of the money and you appear to have turned the corner, or cut your loses and get out now? No matter which choice, the question remains what would be the best course of action of either choice. I suspect our individual answers will be colored by our own perspectives and lives. Young people may not remember being lied to repeatedly by the Nixon and Johnson Administration on Vietnam. Google: "Domino theory" or "Vietnam Body Counts" to see what some of us remember.

Holy crap, bet that would be a first class trip report! Who wants to get in the office pool on if Raindawg will show up to diss on this accomplishment ? Unlikely, but as Polish Bob posted this report, and he seems to bring out the worst in the dawg, it could happen. Bet that was a hairy airy climb. Congrats and here's to getting down safely:

Thank you. Nice to know where people stand. Your false assumptions about my beliefs and rudeness will have you standing over there with Raindawg not with me. Thank you