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Been there, done that. Good luck!

Ditto on the thanks. Jim had talked to the landowner and Oregon View road is permissible and even encouraged to park on. I am the only person I have seen to take them up on though. Don't block access to the field there as they mow it periodically, esp in the spring.

Here's your rope. Not kidding. Link As far as some of you go with your advice, one rope will do it all, people were climbing some of the hardest snow and ice around with 7/16(11mil) goldline ropes 40 years ago. They'd soak up huge water, then freeze solid into a brick or steel-like consistency and people still got up all kinds of interesting shit with them anyway. The 10mil linked will Toprope, lead, and do snow travel. Is it a dry rope? No. Is it cheap? yes. Will it work fine. Sure. Is there a better single rope for you? Maybe a dry rope. Bi-color is nice too, both cost more. You want to spend more or get multiple ropes: be my guest.

Oh, I have plenty of issues with Cheney. I don't have enough time to type them all. Ask me next time you see me. Some are pretty wild - in a teapot dome kind of way. Glad to see this crew leaving, but wondering and highly expecting if it's a out of the frying pan and into the fire kind of move with Barak. It's a sad state of affairs for choices IMO. BTW: not a criticism Kev, just curious, if you hate your job so much......have you thought about trying to get into something you do like and making yourself happy?

Alright beyotches, it's spring, time to make sure you stuff is up to snuff. Heres' a rope you should buy to replace your old POS that you don't even want to be toproping with. REI must have had some of these left over, as the dollar to Euro thing should have hit to make this a $200 rope you'd think. Like this? Click here. Edelrid Fat Rock Slim 10mm x 60m Non-Dry Rope $114.93 !

Biden wuz my bitch for Pres. When he dropped out, after only getting 2% of the vote, I lost interest. It amazes me that Obama, Mr "no specifics" is on the top of that dogpile. He's selling a dream, I like dreams too, but would like to see some history of specifics.

KEEP HOPE ALIVE!

Do they have any that will make my ass look smaller? I'd get in line to buy some if they did.

All I get on Dictionary .com is this. Which Grove is it Orchard, ballplayer or Forest? grove /groʊv/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[grohv] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –noun 1. a small wood or forested area, usually with no undergrowth: a grove of pines. 2. a small orchard or stand of fruit-bearing trees, esp. citrus trees: a grove of lemon trees. [Origin: bef. 900; ME; OE grāf] —Related forms groved, adjective groveless, adjective —Synonyms 1. See forest. Grove /groʊv/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[grohv] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –noun 1. Sir George, 1820–1900, English musicologist. 2. Robert Moses (“Lefty”), 1900–75, U.S. baseball player. grove (grōv) Pronunciation Key n. 1. A small wood or stand of trees lacking dense undergrowth. 2. A group of trees planted and cultivated for the production of fruit or nuts: an orange grove. [Middle English, from Old English grāf.] Grove (grōv) Pronunciation Key British musicologist whose Dictionary of Music and Musicians (first published 1878-1889) has become a standard reference work. Grove, Robert Moses Known as "Lefty." 1900-1975. American baseball player. A left-handed pitcher for the Philadelphia Athletics (1925-1933) and the Boston Red Sox (1934-1941), he led the American League in earned run average nine times and in strikeouts seven times. grove O.E. graf (akin to græafa "thicket"), from P.Gmc. *graibo-, but not found in other Gmc. languages and with no known cognates anywhere. grove noun 1. a small growth of trees without underbrush 2. garden consisting of a small cultivated wood without undergrowth

Interesting that you brought Cheney to this party SS, as he was able to capably run a 70,000 employee private company. I think he was pretty good at it as well.

I knew someone who worked under Richardson and I was told that he was one of the worst managers ever. Ever. And an arrogant prick as well if you were under him, and not over him where you'd get your ass kissed. I got plenty of for instances, but the one that I'd never seen anyone ever do was this: Richardson would routinely call you by a different name, say if your name was Steve, he'd call you Jim. You would correct him 3-4 times and then finally give up. One of his aides later said he did that to keep underlings off balance. What a dick. And a poor manager as well.

who pointed out the man's race here? Yeah, and don't be hatin on Clowns either:

I had heard that at different times, the CRGNSA folks, the Railroad people and the State police have all stopped to check it out. They were all good with it, and merely curious what was there.

Ken, when I posted that, dru told me it had already been done like 3 or 4 times. But still a classic! To embed, just the numbers after the = sign. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yk5TQFw-1E8&feature=related so this: yk5TQFw-1E8 yk5TQFw-1E8

Dogs like beer too. Hold it, who changed the header?

Yeah, it excites me too:-)

Wow, very interesting, right at that spot: it looks like the road access almost encompasses right where the cliff is, and the USA/CRGNSA is right below it. The cliff looks like the dividing line.

Kevbone keeps putting on some music stuff: bet he's never seen anything like this. Love the Red Army backup too. 0lNFRLrP014&hl

I know, but ya got to love that. My very first time at Squamish, about 1 mo before the trip, I'd ripped every finger tendon in my left hand. I'd tried to get on stuff in the gym right before the trip so as to stretch out my muscles and try to get a feel for the rock before the trip, but it was excruciating, so I was just going to go because I'd earlier told my buddies I would. First route - I just eyeball a line from the ground, jump on it. Fingers weren't stressed at all. After I get down my buddy Bill looks it up in the guide and it says 10d. That was back when 10d meant something....well, in Yosemite it meant something anyway:-) Sure made me feel good though.

Well hope your leg gets well soon Porter, it sucks to have to sit around - I think all of us have been there, maybe thats why K gets so cranky: and remember that you can sometimes just go laze in the sun with your buddies and maybe crank a 5.6 or 7 while it heals.

Well......real, real bad news Porter. I had my new Aliens out today and did a review of them up on the rock climbing thread. Metolius just called and said you need to get out and use the fu*ers or send them back. I'm very sorry dude! But it IS a climbing web site after all, best not to get sucked into a black hole:-) .

My opinion: I had the Mastercams and some Aliens out today and used every one. Yellow and Blue on lead (along with 5 of the Aliens same pitch) and the orange MC for the belay anchor, and they are superb......just superb. My previous post 'bout the width of the cable stem thing only proves me to be full of shit on the speculation game as that had no impact on performance and after looking at the whole no-issue carefully I don't think it will. In fact, the alien cable ass. is @ equal in size and it's never been an issue with them either. I had studied them beforehand and put the sizes in my mental bank so I would grab the correct size - hopefully the first time. My only issue came when mid-pitch on an ungraded route, feeling to be at about my limit of grade for the day, after eyeballing the crack I snatched the yellow one off, and it turned out to be the Yellow offset TCU Metlius makes which I'd also taken and mistakenly or stupidly racked right next to the Yellow Master Cam. Totally different size....I was all like WTF? Why do they do that, make one yellow big and one small? My bad for not paying attention. They have all the benefits of Aliens but none of the disadvantages (like being made by CCH:-) I wouldn't toss my Aliens to get these, but these are fine cams, and would not consider buying anything but offsets from CCH if I was in the market for this size of cam. Once Metolius makes the offsets though...there is no going back to CCH IMO. Although the cable is stiffer, it still bent fine and had no ill effect IMO. They stick just as good as Aliens too. Later, I walked around with my Yellow/Red CCH offset and compared it to the Metolius Orange (non-offset). Anywhere I could get the CCH to stick, the Metolious would place as well, which I found fairly surprising as the offsets have an advantage in some placements. Take care all

What Matt said....BTW, where Trask? Hey, see you cornholers later, I'm off for dinner.

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Ouch.....shit dude, I think you need to get out and use your new Metolius Master cams and remember that there is still beauty in teh world.....