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It's a specious argument Jayb. Just cause I was getting out, and some group of idiots offered me a lot of money to go kill a bunch of other dimwits, doesn't mean that the US loss is your gain (AND VICE VERSA). There's more than dollars and sense at stake and in the equation. There's your soul and the soul of the country. Mercenaries? Comes with a hidden price tag. That's not to say that someone who is working for XE after they get out is on the same playing field. I'm talking going to another country to work. I'd still fly "Air America" and am fine with it, our country's training is very good:-) You don't own people ya know. BTW, turned them down anyway. Once you really look at the math, it wasn't as much money as they think they want you to believe. That's all I know. Not much. Glad folks have stopped slagging on each other. As far as the "Obama the Dictator" header. If the man won't stand for election, then he's a dictator. Otherwise, take a cleansing breath Kevin. LOL Regards

ps, didn't get any beans either. If someone were to spill them, I'd be cookin them right up. oh oh oh! Signals. Both my shoulders are trashed. Really! So the most important signal isn't "Belay on" or "climbing", but rather "PULL!!!!. This means that you pull up on the rope with every ounce of strength that God gave you, making passage easier for me. Now, that really is all! 7:15 comes early so go get some sleep, and I want to see a trip report too. I'll sac up and finish this liter of wine so it doesn't have to spoil and make folk feel bad about wasting food. Always thinking of you kids i am.

Bueller? You rang? I'll go if you bring the beta {that asshole Plaidman never gave me any}. But check out this gig! Woot! http://cascadeclimbers.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/1071791/TR_The_Steeple_Coethedral_Area#Post1071791 Oh yeah, I met him to loan out my (hand) drill and forgot to ask for it. Can this be my fault? I think knot. I need to up the anty to a power drill and thus get the free beta I believe. This I will do next time. But Plaidmans a good dude despite being drilless. Anyway I'll bring: rack rope sandwiches (vegan- fair trade free range all natural and not a drop of spit in them) car, gas, bolt kit with the more power drill, 3 clowns a hula hoop, and a tricycle. You bring: grateful dead and Fish tape, 3 gallons of Crisco, shoes, harness. :-) That is all. I will divine your address from teh angels and be there at 7:15. AM. I will be eating dinner with some other climbers at 7:15 PM at a nice place this time not the dumpster although they claim to have gotten free tickets to a Lyle Lovette concert that starts at 8pm. Lyle Lovette? I'm like "didn't he sleep with Julia Roberts? ewwwwww". and they're like "free tickets dude" so I'm like "OK then, but I'm giving up a Denali Dave dinner/cookout to hear about this guy banging Pretty Woman, and I think that's not necessarily a good thing". And he's ugly too. But I digress. As I get hungover. am, like I said. Bill oh, forgot to mention, not sharing the sandwiches (vegan- fair trade free range all natural and not a drop of spit in them), so bring a nosh for your self. The real climbers all went off to real climbs and didn't invite us. However, if you could lower yer standards an hold yer nose then I'm sure you can deal and we can tie in with you. I didn't see this earlier as I had to boulder for 15 min. Which I did already! Looks for my car in the am, its a real cool and awesome converted diesel wagon camper -seen here at the Troutdale factory stores. You can crash anywhere. Even right on the freeway parking strip. Incredible! I'm currently sleeping on the couch so you need yer own sleeping bag cause I don't roll that way if ya know what I mean. Needs tires too but should make it the 45 miles out there. We could be sleeping on the couch, but as I'm the "Couchmaster", and I borrowed a pass for the parking: it's all good.

Thanks for the tips Alan. I try to avoid those kinds of things so don't do that often. Need all th help I can get:-) Here's my brother, we day hiked up to Traverse Lake (and on up to the pass you see on the left skyline) and the lake was just starting to unice. Have had a lot of good adventures over the years with him. Check out the camera shaking from the shivering at the end LOL! [video:youtube]

* Son. We were hiking together last week. Don't see him much any more since he moved on. I'll take it off in a bit. Too big. He hooked me up with the bro deal on some helium cams, maybe I'll change the photo to those. * Have some pictures of an old mine I crawled into on that trip last week I can up load, but the minerals may or may not be there. Nice looking cliff next to a mine, literally there were deer walking through the campsite, Mt goats, wolves, moose and wolverines in the vicinity (didn't see a one of any, but there were various sign).....if there were trout in the stream, it might be a good retirement spot:-) edit -someone already took it off, just noticed.

Since I changed my sig line to be a photo, I've come to realize you posted too many shots of the same thing:-0

omg, my sig line is a climbing picture! Woot!

PM sent fer beta "Hey dude, I think yer knots untied."

Did you not read that he was out of the country working for all us us (and paid by you) when the fire occurred? His wife and daughter had to deal with it alone. Having been in a fire yourself, is that really what you want to say? Really?

Clearly you, having now read part of an article on this subject, now know so much more than both of them. We should ignore what the experts say at the end of the story (which I quoted and you apparently didn't read) and just go with the angry bystander you quoted. Uhhh, dude, do you vote? Maybe they should elect you fire chief. Or mayor. Both?

Ding ding ding. Is Obama still calling them the "Bush" tax cuts? Well, I suspect that we all had hopes that things would change so we could kick back and coast on borrowed (Chinese and Fed) money. Seems like around here about everyone (except jayb) thinks that it's fine to just keep driving the bus towards the cliff. We'll blame the skinflint taxpayers for not anti-ing up to put in a guard rail at that spot. But we'll wait till the bus goes over first, then all the pundits will declare how clear it was to them that this needless tragedy was going to occur: after the fact of course.

Got it from the story you linked. Does that help? You should read it. Interesting story.

If you get real bored, you should read the link Jim posted in the first post. They quote people who contradict the headline. As is often the case the truth didn't fit into the headline so they buried it at the bottom of the story. Jim would be a great Rush Limbaugh fan. Accept the major premise at face value, ignore the real truth, and get a bloody nose when your knee jerks up. Again, Oakland lost 3500 homes. Nobody suggested to them that spending more would have done a damned thing. Of course they have made many changes in a wide variety of things as the link above says.

Glad you and yours made it though Scott. My thought's and prayers go out for those who did go the fire shaft. If 39 more firefighters would have made a difference will be looked at I don't doubt. No one made the charge when Oakland, ca burned down 3500 homes that they were not paying enough taxes and that they could have saved even a single home by spending more. You all forget about that one so soon? And as Bob says in his earlier post, fire and building codes DO make a difference. They changed the codes in Oakland area after that fire. http://oaklandnorth.net/2011/10/19/twenty-years-after-the-oakland-hills-fire-what-has-changed/ Disasters have always been part of life although we have it pretty damned good around here generally, and I'm not looking forward to the one where my house shakes off the foundations in the next massive earthquake. When it does, if some of you guys could not start personally attacking each other for no apparent reason: it will be better for all. That we all still have roofs over our heads (and internet access to bag on others:-) is a damned good thing, and not to be ignored and forgotten. It's trying times for some of our bros in Colo. Warm regards to all.

Check out Gary Johnson. http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/issues I'm voting for him as I'm pretty much a social liberal, fiscal conservative leave me the fuck alone kind of guy and he's the only choice for nutjobs like me. ..and to further increase the ridicule exposure here, I swap back and forth as a registered democrat and republican depending on who is pitched in the primaries for Senate and the House (registering "independent" means you have NO vote in the primary). This election, I'm registered dem. Obama was the ONLY democratic Presidential candidate on the primary ballot. I voted for him. Laugh away:-). Barack, who is a far distant 2nd place and near intolerable to me would get my vote if it was just him and Romney and they held a gun to my head and said "VOTE DUDE". Romney lost me for good with his recent comment to the effect that Obama had mishandled Iran: that he (Romney) would have invaded already had he been President. weakest link.wav

Trip: Wallowa' - Eagle Cap Wilderness - Date: 7/9/2012 Trip Report: Sort of not climbing as it was a backpacking trip, but I'll dig around later and post a pic of the nice wall I saw up there. - unnamed. Which doesn't mean unclimbed. Here we are on the easier (higher) of the stream crossings. I strapped my wife's pack onto mine so she didn't have to deal with it. Barefoot was kind of hard on the feet. Close to having the place by ourselves once we got to Echo lake up the West Eagle River. [video:youtube]

Good advice but I'd just go with just the 3/8-16 stainless. I don't know if I'd want to be carrying stuff around all the time like that which would very rarely get used. Pretty soon you'll be carrying more crap than Plaidman ( Plaidman expeditions.com ) and climbing even slower. (LOL) If you bump into me I'll give them to you as I've got plenty. There is a (<7%) possibility that they are 10mm studs as that is what Fixe sells. A 3/8-16 UNC thread is almost dead nuts the same size as 10mm, so if your 3/8 nut doesn't thread onto the stud, don't force it and screw up the threads. Whats the location, I might know which it is.

If this had even a single descent climbing photo, I'd vote it most awesomeoust first post ever. Still excellent as you convey such happiness, thanks for sharing the stokage!!!!

Need to shoot for this look I think. Worlds most famous tranny?

WAIT! We got us hope and change don't we? Do we need anything else? NO! Of course, who saw that the "change" of Bush leaving was that our country would actually become even more militaristic and start even MORE shit. Who the hell saw that coming? Not me. We've got military stationed in 130 countries they report. Holy shite!!!!! Who amongst us even knew there were that many in the world to go stick our often unwanted nose into? Actually, I generally agree with ya Larry. I don't think full withdraw and isolationism is the answer. We need to pick and chose our battles and get the very rare important one(s) nailed and fully committed too. The other down side of becoming more militaristic is that we have to pay a lot more to suppress the people we piss off by acting like asswipes. The very worst thing about the whole disaster is that since we CANNOT AFFORD IT now when things are still generally good, WE ARE BORROWING TO DO IT!!! The borrowing is not only unsustainable, pointless, senseless and counterproductive, but our children will be stuck with the bill at a time where thy will have declining resources to pay for it. Such stupidity. Big goverment. Good story/Op Ed in Al's Jizzum this very day on how much MORE militaristic the US has become with our Nobel peace prize winning dude steering the force projection ship (which probably needs to be renamed the USS Neocon). When I was catching shit from this board by saying years earlier that I didn't see any significant difference between Republican and democrat, this is the poster for that thought. Here's the link and the entire story. If you like it send the Emir a personal thank yew: http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2012/06/2012625125236369213.html

I thought that a pic of you with your head up your ass as usual would be enough Rob. I'll work on my skillz. I'd hit that after only one drink. Probably a good enough reason to stop drinking immediately. LOL! Thanks for the links Adam. I'll give you a head sup and suggest that your blog had too many words. Rob up there can get about 3 or 4 words in a row read before he gets confused and his mind makes the rest of the shit up. You see this repeatedly around here on the various threads. Clearly we're not your target audience although I'd bet Trash could comment on yer stuff as he act's smart. Occasionally. Anyhow, take care all, you too rob! Vios con dios Amigos!!

burchey, I like you - although you may have too much common sense for us. So here's a heads up: don't copy peoples family members pictures into your posts and make fun of them. It's not right. Belittle fellow posters all day long 10,000 ways to Sunday verbally or via pics copied off the net, but leave their personal shots out of the ridicule. Carry on. Examples of ways to insult others.

Sad that American kids (who are off all summer) are too busy to help with the harvest...

LOL!

Cage cat is interested.