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If you get real bored, you should read the link Jim posted in the first post. They quote people who contradict the headline. As is often the case the truth didn't fit into the headline so they buried it at the bottom of the story. Jim would be a great Rush Limbaugh fan. Accept the major premise at face value, ignore the real truth, and get a bloody nose when your knee jerks up. Again, Oakland lost 3500 homes. Nobody suggested to them that spending more would have done a damned thing. Of course they have made many changes in a wide variety of things as the link above says.

Glad you and yours made it though Scott. My thought's and prayers go out for those who did go the fire shaft. If 39 more firefighters would have made a difference will be looked at I don't doubt. No one made the charge when Oakland, ca burned down 3500 homes that they were not paying enough taxes and that they could have saved even a single home by spending more. You all forget about that one so soon? And as Bob says in his earlier post, fire and building codes DO make a difference. They changed the codes in Oakland area after that fire. http://oaklandnorth.net/2011/10/19/twenty-years-after-the-oakland-hills-fire-what-has-changed/ Disasters have always been part of life although we have it pretty damned good around here generally, and I'm not looking forward to the one where my house shakes off the foundations in the next massive earthquake. When it does, if some of you guys could not start personally attacking each other for no apparent reason: it will be better for all. That we all still have roofs over our heads (and internet access to bag on others:-) is a damned good thing, and not to be ignored and forgotten. It's trying times for some of our bros in Colo. Warm regards to all.

Check out Gary Johnson. http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/issues I'm voting for him as I'm pretty much a social liberal, fiscal conservative leave me the fuck alone kind of guy and he's the only choice for nutjobs like me. ..and to further increase the ridicule exposure here, I swap back and forth as a registered democrat and republican depending on who is pitched in the primaries for Senate and the House (registering "independent" means you have NO vote in the primary). This election, I'm registered dem. Obama was the ONLY democratic Presidential candidate on the primary ballot. I voted for him. Laugh away:-). Barack, who is a far distant 2nd place and near intolerable to me would get my vote if it was just him and Romney and they held a gun to my head and said "VOTE DUDE". Romney lost me for good with his recent comment to the effect that Obama had mishandled Iran: that he (Romney) would have invaded already had he been President. weakest link.wav

Trip: Wallowa' - Eagle Cap Wilderness - Date: 7/9/2012 Trip Report: Sort of not climbing as it was a backpacking trip, but I'll dig around later and post a pic of the nice wall I saw up there. - unnamed. Which doesn't mean unclimbed. Here we are on the easier (higher) of the stream crossings. I strapped my wife's pack onto mine so she didn't have to deal with it. Barefoot was kind of hard on the feet. Close to having the place by ourselves once we got to Echo lake up the West Eagle River. [video:youtube]

Good advice but I'd just go with just the 3/8-16 stainless. I don't know if I'd want to be carrying stuff around all the time like that which would very rarely get used. Pretty soon you'll be carrying more crap than Plaidman ( Plaidman expeditions.com ) and climbing even slower. (LOL) If you bump into me I'll give them to you as I've got plenty. There is a (<7%) possibility that they are 10mm studs as that is what Fixe sells. A 3/8-16 UNC thread is almost dead nuts the same size as 10mm, so if your 3/8 nut doesn't thread onto the stud, don't force it and screw up the threads. Whats the location, I might know which it is.

If this had even a single descent climbing photo, I'd vote it most awesomeoust first post ever. Still excellent as you convey such happiness, thanks for sharing the stokage!!!!

Need to shoot for this look I think. Worlds most famous tranny?

WAIT! We got us hope and change don't we? Do we need anything else? NO! Of course, who saw that the "change" of Bush leaving was that our country would actually become even more militaristic and start even MORE shit. Who the hell saw that coming? Not me. We've got military stationed in 130 countries they report. Holy shite!!!!! Who amongst us even knew there were that many in the world to go stick our often unwanted nose into? Actually, I generally agree with ya Larry. I don't think full withdraw and isolationism is the answer. We need to pick and chose our battles and get the very rare important one(s) nailed and fully committed too. The other down side of becoming more militaristic is that we have to pay a lot more to suppress the people we piss off by acting like asswipes. The very worst thing about the whole disaster is that since we CANNOT AFFORD IT now when things are still generally good, WE ARE BORROWING TO DO IT!!! The borrowing is not only unsustainable, pointless, senseless and counterproductive, but our children will be stuck with the bill at a time where thy will have declining resources to pay for it. Such stupidity. Big goverment. Good story/Op Ed in Al's Jizzum this very day on how much MORE militaristic the US has become with our Nobel peace prize winning dude steering the force projection ship (which probably needs to be renamed the USS Neocon). When I was catching shit from this board by saying years earlier that I didn't see any significant difference between Republican and democrat, this is the poster for that thought. Here's the link and the entire story. If you like it send the Emir a personal thank yew: http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2012/06/2012625125236369213.html

I thought that a pic of you with your head up your ass as usual would be enough Rob. I'll work on my skillz. I'd hit that after only one drink. Probably a good enough reason to stop drinking immediately. LOL! Thanks for the links Adam. I'll give you a head sup and suggest that your blog had too many words. Rob up there can get about 3 or 4 words in a row read before he gets confused and his mind makes the rest of the shit up. You see this repeatedly around here on the various threads. Clearly we're not your target audience although I'd bet Trash could comment on yer stuff as he act's smart. Occasionally. Anyhow, take care all, you too rob! Vios con dios Amigos!!

burchey, I like you - although you may have too much common sense for us. So here's a heads up: don't copy peoples family members pictures into your posts and make fun of them. It's not right. Belittle fellow posters all day long 10,000 ways to Sunday verbally or via pics copied off the net, but leave their personal shots out of the ridicule. Carry on. Examples of ways to insult others.

Sad that American kids (who are off all summer) are too busy to help with the harvest...

LOL!

Cage cat is interested.

LOL! Good stuff Kenny! ...and ya got a brother too?!!!! Wow!

todays news: http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/story/2012-06-27/calories-low-carb-weight-loss/55843134/1

Jimmy steps up and lays the riff down: http://news.yahoo.com/jimmy-carter-accuses-u-widespread-abuse-human-rights-154057442--abc-news-politics.html See there, that's what one old dude thinks of those regressive republican Bush/Obama politics. Anyone else see that we have been able to keep the amount of innocents murdered by drones to a low number by counting all men as "insurgents" and as "terrorists". Just need to work to expand that definition to include the little 3 year old girl terrorists and then we can keep murdering people with impunity and keep the count of non-terrorists to just a few newborn infants.

Checking on where this thread disappeared to: Can you hear me now? Can you hear me now? Can you hear me now? Can you hear me now?

Not popping up for me Melisa. I called Ujahn yesterday just to touch base and he was on the way back to town after summiting. Said on the way to the top he and Jesse passed Marks daughter kicked back at the lunchcounter area waiting for the rest of the group to come down after they had spread Marks ashes on top. Being unconnected, he hadn't heard of the accident the first time. They didn't know who she was but had stopped to make sure she was OK, and she told them the story. There was an accident later after they were probably in the car....I was hoping it wasn't any of that group when I read that story. It fortunately wasn't and the guy will recover. Been a rough couple weeks in the cascades.....

Condolences to all of his loved ones....

Why Seattleites should be happy their name isn't attached to that team: [video:youtube] Although "Clap" could have been a word connected to the Sonics when Shawn Kemp was a playaaah for the Sonics I suppose. Kids and baby mamas in every NBA city? 33 in a mine? http://www.chicagonow.com/chicago-tough/2010/10/33-of-shawn-kemps-kids-found-in-chilean-mine/ More.....

In addition to wasting time on the pass itself as Josephs says above, the thing is 100% regressive. Bill Gates pays the same as a poor widow with 4 kids. Someone may be able to pass on buying 11 morning lattes and afford the pass instead, but should a person who cannot afford a latte pass on buying a pair of shoes for a child so that they can afford the pass, or should she just buy the shoes and stay the hell out of the rich mans forest? Those people do exist, even if you people never see them in YOUR world. Furthermore, everytime a new fee or tax is added, a new little bureaucracy sprouts up to manage it. It's wasteful and wrong.

You go overseas and a few scant weeks later this is hot? Sobo, she's OK, but buddy, it's gonna be a looooonnnngggggg tour. LLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!

Best thread revival of the month ScottP! Great read.

Nice solo effort. Takes stones to head up to that place alone and get off the ground, especially on a new line. Anyway, it's too early for everyone to start bitching so I wouldn't worry over that just yet. Alternatively, you could wait till it warms up or stops raining too. It would be more fun. Going to wet up there this weekend. http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?lat=45.11230010229608&lon=-122.21026618033648&site=pqr&smap=1&unit=0&lg=en&FcstType=text

Octomom vs Dolphin http://www.grindtv.com/outdoor/blog/33893/bottlenose+dolphin+falls+under+attack+by+naughty+octopus/ Hmmmm, any bets if jb turns this into a republican vs democrat thing......or a regressive shill taxpayer vs welfare sucker...nahhh. LOL