billcoe

I got the email, as I'm sure a few other thousand of you did as well, on Tim Olsen's long awaited guidebook now being available. He doesn't really spell out what's in it, I had heard of many new areas being included but am not sure which or how many went in. I heard the rumor that there were 400 pages of new areas/new routes throughout the Oregon area. Damned exciting. I've got one on order. Buy it here with and there's links to stores to get it as well: http://www.portlandrockclimbs.com/portland-rock-climbs

Today I was out at the cliff, and I sat down on a fist sized rock that was on the ground. So I moved the rock and it became much softer.

Ivan - what would you rate the first pitch of the Dragons Spine? We (Ujahn and I) think it's either 5.10 or 5.8.

Well, include an Ivan to English dictionary too will ya:-) (I jokemake, love reading Ivans stuff- abiet sometimes it takes 2 passes) Congrats all on the send!

Somebody put a Burqa on that babe before the Taliban whack her. Have some common decency. Here', I have it, don't want to piss off jb again. I'm going red cause it's so sexy though. Sorry to make jokes jb, it will stop immediately. Wait, is that yer mom ya say? opps, sorry. A guy can't win. Soooo, we sent Sobo over there to clean up the mess? WTF? Who's bright idea was that? He's going to have them all tipping back cold ones and next thing ya know they'll all be wanting to live in peace. http://cascadeclimbers.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/1064420/Sobo_s_Updates Sobos suitcase get's empty upon arrival:

It's been 30 days, checking in to see how it's going Mel.

Yup - same same. bad juju no matter what it's called, it's got Urishal in it. I'm surprised more climbers and hikers don't put some round up or crossbow into a little sprayer and spray the stuff on hikes in. Putting it into a dry bag would keep it off yer stuff. If it's good enough to spray on yer crops twice a year, or coat the edge of every state highway, a small squirt only on the leaves shouldn't be an issue. Old growth Poison oak cleanup below. Some (very few) folks can rip it out with their bare hands and don't need sprays.

Richard Lord would be, but Jon? Don't see it. Uhhh, "Deep Purple" I believe he was referring too as a great porn star name Steven. In which case - LOL!

Then the multi-level correct choice as Max said and Blake may have been thinking is:

Went up to get some shots of Plaidman on his new route on the Steeple today. No Plaidman. Can see the rope in photo #2. Scott estimates he's 150' up, doing it partially solo ground up, or sometimes with Ricky and or Rhonda. Went for a hike on the Indian Henry/Fish Creek Clackamas river trail afterwards. Was pretty good. Anyway, maybe Scott will weigh in if I have the location picked correctly as I'm guessing. I couldn't see it with my Steiner Binocs, but the camera has a 14mp and 20x optical zoom and I thought that I could see the rope hanging once I got home. Clicking on the pics should enlarge them. Overview Closeup In retrospect, I think I can see the rope going higher than my mark. Weather notes. Sweltering in the valley, was somewhat pleasant (@70s) up here at 3500' level.

Way to turn and burn! Woot!

That might not read the way you think Kenny? Or was it something you saw? .......anyway, good seeing you there, and teh Phussy got a lift out and a fast lap to start yer day. Good tieing in with you teh. Quite the turnout for a week day! Woot!

It's a personal choice. No one can make it for us. We all make these choices based on many things that we often unconsciously bring to the table. That my father died when I was 18 months old (brain tumor) weighed heavily with me. I lived my entire life with no dad and I didn't want that for my kids. My wife wanted the kids about the time I was just hitting my stride in climbing. First one popped out: I jacked up my life insurance, stopped climbing Mts and ice and doing lots of other things as well, and prayed daily that I would live till my child was at least 5 years old. It was my manta I chanted at night. Daily. Not a joke. Every frikkan day I considered this very topic and strove to achieve that objective. I made it, and was out backpacking last week with the lad, the youngest at 22, seen below out climbing in Red Rocks with me a few months back. I got here due to conscious choices. Good times. My choices are not anyone elses, mine alone, and none of us ultimately get out alive. That I delayed the inevitable was my thing. Can't speak for anyone else or their choices. If someone choses to go for it, balls out, more power to them. I tend to respect those who think, then chose the path. A choice thus made is usually much more worthy and worth fulfilling IMO. Alex Lowes choice was as valid as mine. For me, it would have been a bad thing, it was not for him though and I respect that. Those who do not chose and let the current of life cause them to drift, are a different -perhaps lower, category. It is for each of us to make that choice. Or not. That's all I have.

It's a specious argument Jayb. Just cause I was getting out, and some group of idiots offered me a lot of money to go kill a bunch of other dimwits, doesn't mean that the US loss is your gain (AND VICE VERSA). There's more than dollars and sense at stake and in the equation. There's your soul and the soul of the country. Mercenaries? Comes with a hidden price tag. That's not to say that someone who is working for XE after they get out is on the same playing field. I'm talking going to another country to work. I'd still fly "Air America" and am fine with it, our country's training is very good:-) You don't own people ya know. BTW, turned them down anyway. Once you really look at the math, it wasn't as much money as they think they want you to believe. That's all I know. Not much. Glad folks have stopped slagging on each other. As far as the "Obama the Dictator" header. If the man won't stand for election, then he's a dictator. Otherwise, take a cleansing breath Kevin. LOL Regards

ps, didn't get any beans either. If someone were to spill them, I'd be cookin them right up. oh oh oh! Signals. Both my shoulders are trashed. Really! So the most important signal isn't "Belay on" or "climbing", but rather "PULL!!!!. This means that you pull up on the rope with every ounce of strength that God gave you, making passage easier for me. Now, that really is all! 7:15 comes early so go get some sleep, and I want to see a trip report too. I'll sac up and finish this liter of wine so it doesn't have to spoil and make folk feel bad about wasting food. Always thinking of you kids i am.

Bueller? You rang? I'll go if you bring the beta {that asshole Plaidman never gave me any}. But check out this gig! Woot! http://cascadeclimbers.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/1071791/TR_The_Steeple_Coethedral_Area#Post1071791 Oh yeah, I met him to loan out my (hand) drill and forgot to ask for it. Can this be my fault? I think knot. I need to up the anty to a power drill and thus get the free beta I believe. This I will do next time. But Plaidmans a good dude despite being drilless. Anyway I'll bring: rack rope sandwiches (vegan- fair trade free range all natural and not a drop of spit in them) car, gas, bolt kit with the more power drill, 3 clowns a hula hoop, and a tricycle. You bring: grateful dead and Fish tape, 3 gallons of Crisco, shoes, harness. :-) That is all. I will divine your address from teh angels and be there at 7:15. AM. I will be eating dinner with some other climbers at 7:15 PM at a nice place this time not the dumpster although they claim to have gotten free tickets to a Lyle Lovette concert that starts at 8pm. Lyle Lovette? I'm like "didn't he sleep with Julia Roberts? ewwwwww". and they're like "free tickets dude" so I'm like "OK then, but I'm giving up a Denali Dave dinner/cookout to hear about this guy banging Pretty Woman, and I think that's not necessarily a good thing". And he's ugly too. But I digress. As I get hungover. am, like I said. Bill oh, forgot to mention, not sharing the sandwiches (vegan- fair trade free range all natural and not a drop of spit in them), so bring a nosh for your self. The real climbers all went off to real climbs and didn't invite us. However, if you could lower yer standards an hold yer nose then I'm sure you can deal and we can tie in with you. I didn't see this earlier as I had to boulder for 15 min. Which I did already! Looks for my car in the am, its a real cool and awesome converted diesel wagon camper -seen here at the Troutdale factory stores. You can crash anywhere. Even right on the freeway parking strip. Incredible! I'm currently sleeping on the couch so you need yer own sleeping bag cause I don't roll that way if ya know what I mean. Needs tires too but should make it the 45 miles out there. We could be sleeping on the couch, but as I'm the "Couchmaster", and I borrowed a pass for the parking: it's all good.

Thanks for the tips Alan. I try to avoid those kinds of things so don't do that often. Need all th help I can get:-) Here's my brother, we day hiked up to Traverse Lake (and on up to the pass you see on the left skyline) and the lake was just starting to unice. Have had a lot of good adventures over the years with him. Check out the camera shaking from the shivering at the end LOL! [video:youtube]

* Son. We were hiking together last week. Don't see him much any more since he moved on. I'll take it off in a bit. Too big. He hooked me up with the bro deal on some helium cams, maybe I'll change the photo to those. * Have some pictures of an old mine I crawled into on that trip last week I can up load, but the minerals may or may not be there. Nice looking cliff next to a mine, literally there were deer walking through the campsite, Mt goats, wolves, moose and wolverines in the vicinity (didn't see a one of any, but there were various sign).....if there were trout in the stream, it might be a good retirement spot:-) edit -someone already took it off, just noticed.

Since I changed my sig line to be a photo, I've come to realize you posted too many shots of the same thing:-0

omg, my sig line is a climbing picture! Woot!

PM sent fer beta "Hey dude, I think yer knots untied."

Did you not read that he was out of the country working for all us us (and paid by you) when the fire occurred? His wife and daughter had to deal with it alone. Having been in a fire yourself, is that really what you want to say? Really?

Clearly you, having now read part of an article on this subject, now know so much more than both of them. We should ignore what the experts say at the end of the story (which I quoted and you apparently didn't read) and just go with the angry bystander you quoted. Uhhh, dude, do you vote? Maybe they should elect you fire chief. Or mayor. Both?

Ding ding ding. Is Obama still calling them the "Bush" tax cuts? Well, I suspect that we all had hopes that things would change so we could kick back and coast on borrowed (Chinese and Fed) money. Seems like around here about everyone (except jayb) thinks that it's fine to just keep driving the bus towards the cliff. We'll blame the skinflint taxpayers for not anti-ing up to put in a guard rail at that spot. But we'll wait till the bus goes over first, then all the pundits will declare how clear it was to them that this needless tragedy was going to occur: after the fact of course.

Got it from the story you linked. Does that help? You should read it. Interesting story.