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Generally, I like 'em, but I can never find the damn things. Just not driven I guess, other things on my mind when I'm up there.

Hmm, something in the Middle Fork? Putting up routes on a public crag does not give you any power over it or special rights to controlling information. You should just post up the location beta. You should be able to confirm it's wilderness status without alerting the tool, but if it's wilderness those folks should STOP or start drilling by hand.

Going in to the Douglas via Easy Pass? It's not too bad a trip, head down Fischer Creek until you're near the stream coming out of the Douglas Glacier cirque. Cross Fischer Creek, stay on the left side of the DG cirque stream. It gets slowly more dense until you come out into a basin below a first headwall. Basin is alder filled, but not too bad. Make for a bear trail just left of the waterfall (avoid the slope right of the waterfall - horizontal slide alder hell) which leads steeply into the next basin. To get up the next headwall, take a brushy ramp that runs up and right from right of center, will get you up to the snow directly below thunder peak in a non-technical outing, and probably no harder than BW-2+. Heading around left around the big buttress on Thunder gets you onto the Douglas Glacier, and voila!

Ed, you ignorant slut. Tahquitz and Suicide are not bastions of rap bolting. On the otherhand, I don't think there are too many new lines worth squeezing in there either.

The Scar by China Mieville, which I'm only just starting, looks to be awesome, in a Gene Wolfe wierd world kind of way. Mostly set at sea, a bonus for you, eh Lummox? In terms of Tim O'Brien, I really liked The Things They Carried. It had an awesome way of speaking so realisticly in the first person, you believed it was non-fiction. O'Brien would periodically pierce the veil to remind you it was fiction, and damned if by the next story you didn't buy right back into it. One of the better Vietnam books I've read.

I must lead a charmed life. I use cheap cd's from Costco, Nero software, and either a Sony or Lite-on burner running at 52x and almost never have a failure. Gotta do some other shennanigans for the copy protected stuff though, that often involves making a coaster or two.

Hmmm, noticed, not climbed I notice.

Okay, you can level with me. Can there be too much of a good thing? Is this overkill? When does a bolt become more of a rock picket?

Dude, that's a photo of a bad thing, not a bad photo, but thanks for sharing. I guess.

Careful dude, you're making yourself sound like a drama queen with a soundbite.

Damn. From the Olympian online: Where's Iain today?

The flip side of the coin is every NIMBY and their brother griping about airplane noise. A high speed rail connection would seem to be the obvious answer, but nobody put me in charge. That Ericson-Snyder message exchange was hilarious. Please Mr. Snyder, answer the question, yes or no, have you stopped sacrificing passengers in satanic rituals yet?

Hah, and it's the chipping that chaps me. Bolt holes, including those that hold on artificial holds, can be filled fairly well. Chipping takes a lot of weathering to go away, and bashing away at the holds with a hammer or coating them with bondo is no solution at all.

I'm confused, did this happen on the snow slope that heads down from where you round the false summit, or in the couloir proper after you turn right from the broader descent area?

And if you filter it right away you could even make a tepid cup of tea.

Shapp's probably to young to remember all the bad ass routes put up with stoppers and hexes cj100f's probably too young to remember all the bad ass routes put up with a rack of pins and a hammer

You need to get your owner to shear you, at least your midsection, then loll about in the shady corners of your field.

Wednesday! Wednesday! Be There! Be There! Gonna clean up a new route today, might even be easier than 5.10....

Here's another descent option: After the NE Rib, we went more or less straight down the other side from the summit area, following a major gully. We'd intended to do the traverse to the West Summit descent as described in Beckey, but got impatient with the traverse prospect. The gully wasn't bad despite some anxiety over our venture into terra incognita. Mostly 3rd class with some loose stuff, standard cascade gully grovelling. Towards the bottom there was a drop off and a waterfall, we descended a little to the east down a bit of a buttress, about two leads of moderate downclimbing as I recall. We did leave one RP close to the moat to help the second over the trickiest bit. Down the snowcone to a heathery bit with scrub trees and tons of dead downed wood for the plushest unplanned bivy I've every had, toasty fire all night long. Next morning we began traversing to the west, and wound up on the Beckey described descent, a little bit of elevation gain was hard on our overworked underfed selves, then over the shoulder and down through steep timber back to the road. The timber was endless, but not brushy, and I don't remember any devils club slide alder vine maple hell on it at all. We were back to the car by noon. This way seemed much safer than the CJ couloir, sounds less gripping than the E Ridge downclimb, and shorter than the Gunsight traverse: I'd take that way again.

I think you're looking for the Nature Conservancy.

Spring Mountain in eastern oregon has exactly what you're looking for, complete with great free camping and no trail pass, but it's prolly a little hot right now. Check it out sometime. Free online guide here

Kind of thick and sultry today (Wednesday 7/14), but it'll be a happening thing all the same. I expect I'll go wallow in the ultra cold free old quarry pool at the Tenino city park first, so I won't be cragging until 5:30 or 6:00 is my guess.

He probably also discovered all the people who were living there too.

Same map suggests that Brinnon is even farther left, eh Snarkboi.