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Their application is for sandstone, just not in the desert SW.

Holy shit, Bronco and I agree on something!

Heh, well you certainly inspired an emotional outburst on my part. The fact is that it's irrelvant whether the overly broad privacy invasion provisions of the act have been abused yet, it's not a tool I want in the hands of anyone's administration. My (strong) feelings on the matter won't change when Kerry wins. My apologies if I put you in the wrong pigeonhole, I'm sure the fault is entirely mine.

Oh piss off Fairweather, you masquerade as a libertarian, but really you're just another fucked up right wing Republican wanker, so own up to your affiliation and stop pretending you're anything but a jackboot motherfucker who wants to quash the rights and opinions of anyone who doesn't agree with you. As a lefty who appreciates the points at which my concerns overlap those of other's with regards to personal liberties as guaranteed by the constitution of our country, I don't care about the party affilitation of supporters of the Patriot Act. No, I haven't run afoul of the Patriot Act yet, and my wife the librarian hasn't been involved in a secret seizure of private information from the feds yet, but that doesn't mean that crap is okay. Somehow, the establishment of the precedent for secret information seizure, however delayed the deployment, does not sit well with me. If you were a thinker instead of a knee jerk supporter you would not be so complacent about surrendering your personal liberties to whoever held the reins of power. Wake up dickhead, just because Bush II is in power does not guarantee you jack shit. I don't want John Kerry to have that power either. The traditional distrust that the average American citizen feels for their government is not entirely unfounded, regardless of which party sits in the white house.

Looks like as much fun as you can have in the Olympics, excellent route! It does raise one question though, does Wayne always wear his helmet?

So Clinton gives Fairweather wood, isn't that a man's man kind of behavior? btw, John Wayne was a fag.

Yes, to the right. The yahoo front and center is Drucifer himself.

Weather looks to be good this week, though it looks like I will be cragging at Donner Summit instead of Tenino this Wednesday. Ya'll should come on out and have fun, I'll see you the following week.

On a more serious note, where can I go to get certified as a wanker? It would seem there must be some sort of online course I could sign up for somewhere on this board.

Sorry, poorly phrased on my part. Yes, anything newly exposed will be pretty clean, but since I've never been there I was curious to know if anyone has a clue if there are potential crags that are currently submerged, which are likely to be of interest precisely because they will be pre-cleaned.

Sounds like the Elwah dams are coming down for sure, agreement was just reached. I think it may not be until 2008 though. Question is, will it expose any new crags that will be vegetation free?

It doesn't strike me that being described as the "Donald Trump of Orange County's Little Saigon" is much of a character reference, and I doubt that Mr. Jao speaks for his race anymore that I speak for mine. Hey, I know a pro-life anti-gay-marriage rural dwelling firefighter who voted for Bush the first time and is supporting Kerry this time, but I don't think it says anything about the entire population of his pigeonhole.

Has anyone been able to find anyone who will admit to being a former CO of Bush, much less anyone who could even comment on his service? What's Bush's greatest claim to fame of his "military" service, that he could charm the ladies at some southern senator's re-election campaign headquarters?

Slab is all a mind game anyway. If you truly believe you can stand there, it doesn't matter what is on your feet. Voodoo Child 5.11a on Mt. Lemmon was put up in Robbins blue boots.

No CJ, they don't have to work for it, they achieved it by being born.

Whaddyu mean Natty, did his momma serve and he was there in egg form? BP's a lot of things, and one of them is too young for Vietnam.

No Dru, you're just another white suburban middle class punk like me.

Greg, back to work you weak poodle-arsed slumgullion, booths 7 through 29 still need cleaning, and I don't want to hear any more whining about sores on your tongue. No wonder you're underemployed.

"Now honey, I'm sure I heard a cough. Here, just a little of this will help..."

In 1980 getting busted for two oz in the mail from the states resulted in two hours in jail, being released on your own recognizance (you wouldn't want to be in jail for the long weekend, eh?) and a hundred dollar fine, along with advice from the Edmonton cops on where to go to score some weed locally. However, it's enough to prevent entry since the crime is now considered a felony (wasn't at the time of conviction) and I can no longer get my best partner to go to Canada for climbing or snowboarding. Shoplifting cheese from the store in Yosemite in 1975 (a felony!) caused another friend similar problems until he went the customs route and proved that he had successfully rehabilitated himself from a life of dairy product skullduggery.

Go adopt a cat, Dru

3:10 pm update: The ground and shrubbery is wet, but the rock feels dry, and I don't think it's taken on enough water to weaken the sandstone. At this point I'm going to give things a tentative thumbs up.

It's started to rain. Check back a little later and we'll see if it keeps up or dries off.

Temperatures look to be lovely this evening, and the climbing should be prime. We opened up a new moderate 5.10 a couple weeks ago too, now sporting a couple of those six inch long 5/8" bolts for an anchor too.